I and my neighbour went to the races


My neighbour and I went to the races

are commonly used. However in the plural I've only ever seen the form:

We and the neighbours went to the races

The other form:

The neighbours and we went to the races

sounds drastically wrong for some reason I can't articulate, but I don't think it violates any grammatical rules. Is My neighbours and we incorrect in this context, or does it seem strange simply because it isn't commonly used?

  • We and my? I think you are looking for us and our
    – mplungjan
    Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 9:43
  • See related previous posts. First person comes last. You before I. It's not grammar, though. Just politeness.
    – Kris
    Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 9:43
  • Duplicate? english.stackexchange.com/questions/5995/…
    – mplungjan
    Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 9:44
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    @mplungjan: surely us and the neighbours went ... and the neighbours and us went ... are both wrong because us is the accusative. Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 10:06
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    @walkytalky: your point was raised in an answer that's now been deleted. I agree, and I wouldn't use the form we and xxx. However my question isn't about style but whether xxx and we is grammatically incorrect. Commented Oct 22, 2014 at 11:18

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It doesn't appear that any answer is forthcoming, so I'll post what I think is the consensus amongst the commenters as an answer.

There is nothing grammatically wrong with the construction:

The neighbours and we went to the races

but it's ugly, and in practice you would use an alternative form like We went to the races with the neighbours.

I cannot find any definitive statement on the subject. The nearest I found is on the blog written by Patricia T. O’Conner, who is the author of several grammar books. She addresses the question in this blog article and states that she believes it to be grammatically correct though she can't find a supporting authority either.

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