11

Example:

Tufy was our Chihuahua. He'd been in the family (ever) since I was born.

Would adding ever change the meaning of the sentence?

8

It might add the subtle extra nuance of meaning that since you were born he's never not been in the family.

  • I feel that nuance, too. But, I'm trying to figure out why. It makes no sense! – David M Mar 19 '14 at 4:24
  • 1
    Much respected @DavidM , I would say this is because the use of "ever" here more-or-less stands in for "forever" - i.e. "He's been in the family (forever - permanently - without 'break') since I was born." This is my half-baked explanation, anyway. – d'alar'cop Mar 19 '14 at 4:31
  • Similar to my own half-baked reasoning. Ever gives a nebulous quality of being on the fringe of memory. Ever since I was a boy, vs since I was a boy. – David M Mar 19 '14 at 4:43
18

There two ways in which it changes the sentence:

  1. It adds emphasis to the timing of the events in your sentence.

  2. It resolves ambiguity in the timing of events. Consider the sentence "She's walked the dog since she ate breakfast." That could reasonably mean:

    1. She's walked the dog because she ate breakfast.

    2. She's walked the dog sometime after she ate breakfast.

    3. She has been walking the dog from the time she ate breakfast until now.

    Using "ever since" would show #3 to be the intended statement.

    Your example sentence is not quite as easy to misinterpret, but it is still susceptible to the same effects.

    1. He'd been in the family because I was born.

    2. He'd been in the family at some point in time after I was born.

    3. He'd been in the family from the time I was born until now.

Fewer words are better, so can't say I'm a fan of "ever since", but I'd rather use it than be misunderstood.


Also, Oddness of sentence containing "since" makes some good comments about "punctual" and "non-punctual" events.

3

It doesn't change the meaning, but it does add emphasis like an exclamation point would. Like saying "way back when" instead of "back when".

  • wrong, it narrows the possible meanings rather than emphasising an existing one – JamesRyan Mar 19 '14 at 10:36
3

I think that it most importantly resolves the ambiguity of potential implied causality -- eg, is your birth the reason that your family had a dog?

Perhaps your parents discussed plans ahead of time, say, while dating: "Let's hold off on getting a dog until we have a kid."

Tufy was our Chihuahua. He'd been in the family since I was born.

To someone entertaining this notion as a possibility, this sentence takes on a whole different meaning, doesn't it?

Even while entertaining such a notion, using 'ever since' maintains the distinction (at least by current vernacular's standards circa 2014) that the dog was around since before you were born.

Tufy was our Chihuahua. He'd been in the family ever since I was born.

1

I don't think it changes the meaning of the sentence but personally I prefer the sentence without the ever. I think with it, the sentence seems repetitive. That is just my opinion though. But no, it doesn't change the meaning.

  • I think the sentence with "ever" seems more likely to have come out of a young teenager's mouth. – Jim Mar 19 '14 at 5:28
  • It does change the meaning to the whole time, rather that at some point within that time – JamesRyan Mar 19 '14 at 10:35
0

Tufy was our Chihuahua. He'd been in the family ever since I was born.

I think something strange in the above sentence.

Usually, past perfect is used to refer to the event that happens before the event in 'past simple' form.

He had been in the family before I was born. (after that, he might not be with us)

He was in our family when I was born. (both events are in the past)

'Ever since' is usually used in present perfect.

He has been in the family ever since I was born. (now he is still with our family, but I may not be in the family).

  • Please add sources to substantiate your answer. Have a look at the help center to find out about good answers. – Helmar Jul 29 '16 at 11:29

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.