I'm not really sure how long I was in there. All I know is that I didn't come out from the toilet before/until I'd thrown up four times.

Should I use before or until? (I third option is also welcome).

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    I think this is Off Topic General Reference for ELU, but it would have been okay on English Language Learners – FumbleFingers Feb 18 '14 at 1:06
  • janoChen, you can also use the word weed instead of peed. – Tristan r Feb 18 '14 at 1:18
  • “Until having peed” sounds quite clumsy to me. Until is normally followed by a finite clause, not a participial clause, so a more natural phrasing would be “until I'd peed”. – Janus Bahs Jacquet Feb 18 '14 at 1:20
  • @Janus Bahs Jacquet Thanks, so I should also write "before I'd peed?" – janoChen Feb 18 '14 at 1:31
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    Before can be used with both finite and participial clauses, so either works fine there. To my ear, though, until is a better fit for what you're intending to say here. – Janus Bahs Jacquet Feb 18 '14 at 1:33

What to Use

Here is a chart of uses

Event-1 until Event-2:

Event-1 continues up to the time when Event-2 begins.

Event-1 before Event-2:

Event-1 occurs prior to the time when Event-2 begins.

Not Event-1 UNTIL Event-2:

Event-1 occurs just at the time when Event-2 begins

Not Event-1 BEFORE Event-2:

Event-1 occurs at any time after the time when Event-2 begins.

So if you are using until you are saying something like

Immediately after I peed four times, I left the bathroom.

And with before

I left the bathroom sometime after peeing four times

It depends on the context

Other Options

I generally wouldn't use I didn't come out before because it is a bit confusing. If that is what you are trying to convey I would use:

I'm not really sure how long I was in there. All I know is that I finally made it out after peeing four times.

It is all up to preference though

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