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I understand that you'se is not considered a formal English word by the Oxford. Colloquially, many people use the word you'se all the time in common conversation. As such, there is a gap in formal English for pointing out the subject as two or more people being adressed. For example, if I were to say

You should buy that Lear Jet.

It would be pronounced the same as

You [people] should buy that Lear Jet.

The only thing separating the two statements is context, which is sometimes hard to encapsulate across different media etc.

Why then is you'se not a formal word for this situation? For example:

You'se [all people being addressed] should buy that Lear Jet.

It becomes obvious that verbally, the pronoun of the conversation is now referencing more than one person and dispelling confusion. I understand that ye was the Middle English form of this word. As such, why is you'se frowned upon?

Edit: For non-Australians, the word you'se is equivalent to y'all and can be substituted throughout my question.

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  • Have you really heard "you'se" used as a subject, before a word that begins with a consonant? "You lot should..." or "Y'all should..." sound natural enough, but "you'se should" sounds quite odd, I think. I've always heard "you'se" or "yinz" as an object or object of a preposition, I think. (Although neither is terribly common in my area.) – Annick Jan 16 '14 at 5:06
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    Absolutely. Where I'm from (Australia) this is a very common phrase as I've described. I would say that Y'all is the American equivalent of the Australian you'se and is almost completely not used. – Mothermole1 Jan 16 '14 at 5:08
  • Why close? Deficiencies in the language are no embarrassment, let the Q stay, I'd say. – Kris Jan 16 '14 at 6:02
  • Have you checked this out? oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/youse – Kris Jan 16 '14 at 6:03
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    I've never seen an apostrophe in the spelling of "youse"; What part of Australia is this variant from? – user867 Jan 16 '14 at 6:37
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Contemporary English does not have a second-person plural. To make up for this deficiency, various dialectical forms have evolved. Youse, you'se, you-all, and several other forms have evolved, but none are universally accepted.

"You people" is potentially derogatory and might best be avoided.

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  • The situation is no better than with the inclusive we. – Kris Jan 16 '14 at 6:01
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    While this answer does provide useful information, it doesn't appear to answer the question "why is you'se frowned upon?" – user867 Jan 16 '14 at 6:40
  • @user867 Thanks! Regional dialects tend to be looked upon as with a degree of distrust by those who did not grow up hearing and speaking them because they are "non-standard." "Youse" is sometimes used as a singular pronoun, a fact that was not mentioned in my answer. Maybe I don't hear it because I grew up using you(s) and y'all(pl). – Michael Owen Sartin Jan 16 '14 at 14:02
  • @MichaelOwenSartin Thanks for providing that information. Might I suggest you edit it in to the answer, since it's what was asked for? – user867 Jan 17 '14 at 2:54
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youse
Pronunciation: /juːz/
(also yous)
pronoun
dialect
you (usually more than one person).

Chiefly US:

youse
pron. Chiefly Northern U.S.
You. Used in addressing two or more people or referring to two or more people, one of whom is addressed. See Notes at you-all, you-uns.
[you + -s.]

Sometimes as youse guys [Boston, New York and Philadelphia]:

yous
- The term is predominantly used in Scotland and Ireland and throughout Australia, as well as overseas areas of previous Irish emigration e.g. some parts of the US (Boston, MA and Philadelphia, PA) and northern Nova Scotia and Lanark Ontario/Canada and South Auckland, New Zealand. It also occurs in Scouse.
- Yous(e) as a plural is found in Australia, England, Scotland, Ireland, New Zealand, South Africa, parts of the northern United States, and parts of Ontario. Yous(e) as a singular is found in Philadelphia, New York, Boston and scattered throughout working class Italian-American communities in the Rust Belt.

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  • There's a different (AAVE) use for youse as well?: you is -- as in Youse a damn fool en.wiktionary.org/wiki/youse – Kris Jan 16 '14 at 6:12
  • While this answer does provide useful information, it doesn't appear to answer the question "why is you'se frowned upon?" – Hugo Jan 16 '14 at 9:16
  • @Hugo you'se is not frowned upon, thus that part of the question is a NARQ. It's not listed as a formal word because it has the status of 'dialect' -- dialect is not 'low English,' please note. – Kris Jan 16 '14 at 11:00
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    You'se may be frowned upon in formal writing. // The other question -- "Why then is you'se not a formal word for this situation?" -- is not addressed here either. – Hugo Jan 16 '14 at 11:19
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    In some parts of Ireland "ye" is very commonly used instead of "youse". – tinyd Jan 16 '14 at 12:03

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