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Say we had the following:

Higher Education spending, clout, and influence in New York State is substantial. Within the State’s borders...

Should the latter instance of State be capitalized or not?

  • The latter instance of "state" should not be capitalized. – Hot Licks Mar 3 '15 at 22:38
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I would say it's six of one and half-a-dozen of the other. First, here's the general pattern for AmE... enter image description here

...and for BrE...

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Those charts suggest that the modern trend (led by American usage, with Brits rapidly catching up) is not to capitalise.


Perhaps because I'm British and/or because I'm over 50, I tend to capitalise "the State" when I mean the British Government, Civil Service, NHS, etc., collectively, on the grounds that I think of it as proper noun referencing a single entity (the British State). But I don't capitalise forms such as state-sponsored industries, because it's a more "general-purpose" reference (to any nation-state).

I'm not going to wade through 46,700 (not case-sensitive) results in Google Books for passages containing BOTH "new york state" AND "the state pays", but I have to say my impression from glancing through the first few pages is that most of them are capitalised (in both terms).

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I would say not, because in the second sentence it is no longer specified, but then I'm a mere Brit.

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    I'd say you could argue either way - the word could be regarded as generic, or a shortening of "New York State's" along these lines: We went to watch "The Pirates of Penzance" last week. "The Pirates" has been showing for several months at . . . – Edwin Ashworth Dec 1 '13 at 15:57
  • @EdwinAshworth Here's my preferred method. When referring to the state or city as a generic territory, don't capitalize it. The state of Texas has 15,000 citizens. The city has rich culture. However, when the words have to do with governmental bodies, capitalize them to recognize their formality. The State of California owes Wall Street millions in debt! The City will vote tomorrow in a hearing. The State declared the contract invalid. Therefore, my preferred opinion is to lowercase state in the question, as the governmental part is not prioritized in the sentence. – Black and White Sep 27 '17 at 22:55
  • This seems sensible, but of course it falls down when using New York State. Whether or not << state of new york >> needs three capital letters because it is a 4-word compound proper noun is a matter for politicians to decide. – Edwin Ashworth Sep 27 '17 at 23:27
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Would you write Maine state, New Hampshire state, or even Rhode Island and Providence Plantations state or would you have the word state camelized? FYI, the full name of Rhode Island is the longest name of any state in the Union.

See, if you cannot write Maine State (or Rhode Island and Providence Plantations State), rather than Maine state, with a clear conscience, than for equality's sake you should not be able to write New York State or Washington State.

Would you write Pennsylvania State or state?

When you write Maine State Lottery or New Your State Police, you would not actually be writing Maine State or New York State, but Maine {State Lottery} and New York {State Police}, especially that these are proper names of entities within those states.

However, due to state/regional patriotism, people in Florida for example, might actually write Florida State. That would be like asking if the word gods should be camelized. Therefore, people outside the patriotic sense of Florida should write Florida state, as people with no allegiance or faith in gods would write gods, uncamelized.

However, New York is a special case. There exists a need to differentiate the city of New York from the state of New York. Since we would write as New York City, normalization of naming convention would require us to write as New York State, regardless of where your allegiance lie.

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I think the simplest way to say this is "If it's part of a pronoun it's capitalized, otherwise it isn't".

Eg "Washington State students are protesting on tuesday"

"Students are protesting against the state government on tuesday"

"Washington State is one of the more northerly states of the USA".

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Almost five years and 82,000 views after this question was posted, no one has yet cited the advice from an actual style guide. Let me break the ice by quoting advice from four major U.S. style guides.

From The Associated Press Style Book (2007):

state Lowercase in all state of constructions: the state of Maine, the states of Maine and Vermont.

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Do not capitalize state when used simply as an adjective to specify a level of jurisdiction: state Rep. William Smith, the state Transportation Department funds.

Apply the same principle to phrases such as the city of Chicago, the town of Auburn, etc.

From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):

8.50 Political divisions—capitalization. Words denoting political divisions—from empire, republic, and state down to ward and precinct—are capitalized when they follow a name and are used as an accepted part of the name. When preceding the name, such terms are usually capitalized in names of countries but lowercased in entities below the national level [cross reference omitted]. Used alone they are usually lowercased.

[Relevant examples:] Washington State; the state of Washington[;] the New England states

From Words into Type, third edition (1974):

Divisions of the World or of a country. Cap names of the divisions of the world or of a country.

[Relevant examples:] North Atlantic States[;] New York State

Lowercase: state {used in a general sense and when it does not follow a proper name: state of New York, state of Oklahoma} ...

From Allan Siegal & William Connolly, The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage, revised edition (1999):

state. Capitalize New York State, Washington State and formal references to any state of government: The State of Ohio brought the suit. Lowercase state in references to a geographic area (They drove through the state of Illinois) and when it stands alone (The state sued the city). Capitalize when State appears with the name of an official agency or with an official title that is capitalized: the State Education Department; State Treasurer Pat Y. Berenich. Use state in reference to New York and Washington when necessary to distinguish them from the cities, but omit State if the context is unmistakable: The governors of California and New York have similar powers. Nebraska's population is smaller than Washington's. Lowercase in the general sense: affairs of state.

The four style guides I've cited offer surprisingly consistent advice on several points, including the appropriateness of initial-capping State following New York or Washington (in part to make clear that the state is intended and not New York City or Washington, D.C.) and in formal references to state governnments of the form "State of Idaho," an the inappropriateness of initial-capping state when it appears in informal, descriptive contexts.

With regard to the poster's question, I think, all four style guides would endorse this approach to capping/lowercasing the posted text:

Higher-education spending, clout, and influence in New York State are substantial. Within the state’s borders...

Just because the four reference works I consulted seem to agree on a particular handling of State and state in the cited example doesn't mean that their preferred treatment is the only legitimate approach. But their agreement does ensure that, if you adopt the same approach, you'll be able to point to lots of reference-work support for having done so.

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