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I was wondering if I can use "et al." in order to say "as such" after a list of elements in a sentence given as example.

If not:

  • What can be the correct Latin abbreviation to use to replace "as such"?

Thank you

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    Not sure why you you would commonly need to say "as such" after a list. Can you give an example? – RBarryYoung Nov 22 '13 at 0:40
  • Yes, I'm not clear on how one would say "as such" after a list of elements in English, never mind in Latin. – Jon Hanna Nov 22 '13 at 1:24
  • wikipedia lists talis qualis as Latin for “just as such” and annotates it as “such as it is” or “as such” – James Waldby - jwpat7 Nov 22 '13 at 5:47
  • Don't you guys say ".. ingredients like potatoes, carrots and such."? Because we sure do. – Phil Nov 22 '13 at 9:59
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    @Phil there is a huge difference between and such and as such. The abbreviation you're looking for is etc. (et cetera) meaning and others – Giambattista Nov 22 '13 at 17:58
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"As such" and "et al." are not synonyms. "As such" is not used after a list of things, but "et al." is. It is used to say "and so on" or "and others".

"This film is ideal for action stars such as Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone, et al."

If you want Latin for "as such", it is "per se", but it is not abbreviated.

"This was not negligence, per se, but absent-mindedness."

  • Arnold and Sylvester are both humans so "as such" wouldn't work. But if one were to say "cats, dogs and such." I believe it would. It would then be referring to such kinds. – Phil Nov 22 '13 at 10:01
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    @Phil, "as such" is not the same as "such" in your sentence. And you will note that I did not use "as such" in the Arnold and Sylvester example -- not least because "as such" does not fit in the sentence's meaning. – Cyberherbalist Nov 22 '13 at 16:49
  • Thank you very much, I notice the fault I made and understand your explanation. – Phil Nov 24 '13 at 19:25
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No, you can't use et al. for that. Et al. basically means and others or refers to a group.

There's not one that I can think of that means as such. If I knew what you were trying to say, the context would help me to figure out which is appropriate.

You could possibly use non obst. (non obstante), but that means something more in line with however, notwithstanding, or yet. It only works with contrast.

You could also try Q. (quasi) if you mean as it were. Tal. (talis) means of such, but that's not quite the same as as such.

I did a quick check on Wikipedia and viz. (videlicet) means that is to say. The only other thing I found was sc. (scilicet), which literally means one may know. Much like viz., sc. is used to introduce a clarification.

EDIT: Now that I know that you mean to say a, b, c, and such, the proper abbrevation is etc. for et cetera

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