Do you always have to put other people before yourself?

When you are telling a story about yourself and another person, it is correct to reference the other person first. For example,

Tim and I went shopping.

Given that rule, then is this also the case in the following type of sentence, where you’re forming a possessive of two people, one of whom is you yourself:

Please see attached Paul's and my ideas on this subject.

This doesn't look at all right to me, but aside from rearranging the whole sentence I can't see how to make it right. Can I write:

Please see attached myself/my/mine and Paul's ideas on this subject.

or does that go against the whole rule about putting the other person first?

I know I can make the sentence work by changing it around but I would like to know if there is a rule for this type of sentence.

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    Welcome to ELU, but you might find you will get better responses on our sister site English Language Learners
    – TrevorD
    Jul 29, 2013 at 13:45
  • You could say "our ideas".
    – Kit Z. Fox
    Jul 29, 2013 at 14:04
  • Note that this answer says that there are no acceptable solutions in formal written English. However, this answer says otherwise.
    – tchrist
    Jul 29, 2013 at 14:24
  • Thanks for your input. How do I close down this question?
    – Mrs Worrod
    Jul 29, 2013 at 15:27


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