I have noticed that there are some phrases which are typically found used with the Present Simple while it is not impossible to use them with the Present Continuous. And I am talking about such instances when the action is occurring at the moment of speaking only.

For example,

  • Mom, what are you doing while I sit here watching waves?
  • While I sit here eating a sour piece of candy, I think to myself, how I have allowed my world to change from sweet to sour?

My question is: Do you find it idiomatic to use Past Simple in my example or would you use Present Continuous?

I would also like to know whether this usage comes down to the word while or the specific verb used. I've heard that for the three verbs sit, lie, grow it is typical to be used with Past Simple even when the action is temporary. Is that right? Would the following be grammatical?

Mom, what are you doing while I lie here watching waves?

And would it be okay to use other verbs too?

Mom, what are you doing while I talk here watching waves?

Don’t know a good example with grow though.

  • "Do you find it idiomatic to use Past Simple in my example or would you use Present Continuous?" Did you mean the Present Simple, instead of Past. "as I sit here" is the Present Simple.
    – d.k
    May 18, 2016 at 23:59

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  1. Your examples are good English and sound quite natural.

  2. The simple present is used relatively rarely in English. If something happened even two seconds ago, we use the past. "I was really surprised when I saw you walk in this room." Past tense. We use the present for something literally happening at this instant, like "I am happy to see you." You are being happy right now. We mostly use the present tense for ongoing action. "I love chocolate." I probably loved it in the past and will continue to love it in the future, but I love it right now.

I don't think sit, lie, and grow are particularly special in this regard. In the specific sentence that you are using for your example, "while I X here watching waves", the words that make sense to fill in for X are limited, not by some rule of what words can be used in the present tense, but rather by what goes with "here" and "watching". It sounds natural to say "while I sit here watching waves" because sitting and watching go together. "While I talk here watching waves" doesn't work because talking and watching do not go together in the same way. But you could easily save the sentence just by adding an "and": "while I talk and watch waves".

Almost any verb should fit in the general construct, "What are you doing while I X?" "What are you doing while I read?" "What are you doing while I eat?" "What are you doing while I paint the room?" Etc.

In general, the present tense is appropriate here because you are asking mom what she is doing at this very moment, while you are doing this other thing. If someone called on the phone and asked what you were doing, you would use the present continuous, "I am sitting here watching waves." Or if you had gotten up to get to the phone so you were no longer sitting, or if you don't think of yourself as watching the waves any more because this person has interrupted you, you would use the past, "I was sitting watching waves."

  • Thank you Jay. I think you understand that a lot of subtleties are not that easy to spot when English is not your first language. For example, I would like to know why you find "talk" and "watch" to be a bad match in this case. Is it just a hunch or something else? I can easily imagine a person speaking on the phone and watching waves.
    – user1425
    Jun 4, 2013 at 13:50
  • I agree with Jay: "talk here watching waves" is not idiomatic. I can't really put my finger on why, though. Jul 17, 2013 at 11:38
  • It must be some rule for use of the Present Simple, when talking about supplementary concurrent situations, sort of. Recently I noticed the same thing in King of the Hill, when Dale called to the FBI about anti-American Hank and said, "... Right now, he is defacing an American flag as we speak". At the moment he was speaking with the FBI on the phone.
    – d.k
    May 19, 2016 at 0:21

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