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I'm busy working on a ladle model at the moment, and as I am idle and inattentive this phrase sometimes comes out as ladel model, sometimes ladle modle, and sometimes ladel modle in addition to the occasional correct spelling.

Is there any particular reason for the two differently-spelt but identically sounded endings? Perusing the dictionary suggests that model is from French and ladle from Old English. Is that why the words are spelt differently?

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    WTF is a ladle model? Are you constructing a faux spoon? – wfaulk Aug 17 '11 at 14:23
  • @wfaulk, A ladle is a container used to move liquid steel around a steelworks; typically, it will hold about 300 tons. I'm working on a mathematical model of the temperatures involved, as we don't want the steel freezing inside (as it is difficult to get it out if this happens) or melting a hole in the bottom (which is bad for the staff on the factory floor). – Brian Hooper Aug 17 '11 at 19:23
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The correct answer is that it is linked to the root source of the word as modified by various dictionary inclusions. Was the root Latin, Greek, was it a verb or a noun, who put it into a Dictionary first, was that dictionary in the UK or in the US of A.

The practical answer is that there is no real rule or logic. Just some vague guidelines with 1000 years of exceptions. When the Normans conquered Briton in 1066 the formal languages spoken by the educated people in charge were French, Latin and Greek. The vast unwashed masses were abandoned to whatever patois they wanted and since there was no formal schooling, the language quickly was stripped of it's complicated rules, unused words and reduced to a bare minimum. Add to the fact that the people were a mixture of several different cultures and you get a mixture of words from a multiple of languages whose meaning often overlap and changed from area to area - a common word in one town would not exist 20 miles away, or mean something else.

It took till the printing press and cheap paper before any real attempt to nail down spellings and meanings was possible, never mind attempted. So for 500 years the language developed independently, and then for 500 years everyone argued about it. How we ever manage to understand each other is a miracle

  • "it's" versus "its" isn't that complicated a rule ;) – ijw Feb 3 '11 at 23:02
  • But really it is an exception to a rule. Almost everywhere else the apostrophe is used to denote possession or to indicate removed letters - in this case it would let you know that there was an "i" removed, but that makes it look like the "it" possesses something, so to avoid confusion, it gets dropped, but the normal rule would be to include it. – Daniel Feb 3 '11 at 23:10
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Words that in Modern English are written ending with -le derive from words ending in -el, -el- or are related with such words.

candle    Old English   candel
cattle    Anglo-Norman  catel 
ladle     Old English   hlædel
paddle    Low German    paddeln
rattle    Low German    ratelen

The spelling of those words is changed, but the pronunciation was keep closer to the original/related word.

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