I just googled the difference between as long as and so long as. The difference has alredy been discussed here. There are, it seems, two contexts for these expressions:

  1. lengths and physical comparisons (time, distance, etc.)
    “This bridge is as long as that bridge.”
  2. some logical implication or synonym for provided that or something like this.
    “You can do that so long as you keep in mind that. . . .”

Somewhere else I found that you can use both expressions for context #2, but should avoid so long as in cases of context #1.

Now, mmyers commented that so long as might be colloquial — or as he put it, “casual”. It seems that it’s possible to never use so long as, since according to what I have been told, you can use either expression in cases of context #1. Given that I am writing academic papers, my questions are:

  1. Is so long as truly non-academic or non–high-style?
  2. Should so long as therefore be avoided altogether?

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The answer to your first question is no, so long as is neither particularly colloquial nor casual. If anything, so long as has a more formal feel to it, not a less formal one, for reasons I shall presently make clear.

The answer to your second is no, so long as is not something that “should be avoided altogether”.

That said, there are native speakers whose dialects are for the most part missing so long as. This came as quite a surprise to me; I’ve always found this a most peculiar lacuna, as I do not share it, but there you have it. From personal experience, some people who do not have so long as in their dialects even seem to resent its use in others’. I do not know why.

Older usage guides prescribed as . . . as for positive comparisons and so . . . as for negative ones.

  • By then I was as tall as my mother, but not yet quite so tall as my father.

You can see this strong historical preference in usage charts:

not-so-long-as picture

But you can also see that that preference changed in the latter half of the twentieth century. You see the same sort of thing when you graph only as long as against not so long as, although this one lags behind the previous one by a decade or two:

only-so-long-as picture

Finally, if we relax the contextual restriction of a prefix not or only, the resulting picture paints a different picture:

so-long-as picture

That shows that when you include both positive and negative uses, so long as showed very strong gains against as long as during the first three quarters of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, eventually even surpassing it, but that it became comparatively less popular during the last fifty years.

This trend is not limited to long; here we see it with not as easy as versus not so easy as:

not-so-easy-as picture

This historical bias therefore has the effect of making so . . . as an “older” feel to it, perhaps therefore a more “formal” feel. By the same token, it also necessarily confers a newer and less formal feel to as . . . as constructs.

If you read anything older than today’s broadsheets, you are bound to come across it, and you will find many speakers who continue to employ it. So if you wish to come off as trendy and hip, certainly you may always simply use as . . . as. However, you need to be aware that so . . . as also enjoys a long history in English, particularly in negative comparisons, and is not so easily dismissed as some would seem to wish it.

Indeed, as the previous sentence illustrates, not so is still perfectly productive and natural. Here we see that it is even today virtually neck and neck with not as — and even that only very, very recently:

not-so picture

  • So, you would recommend using so lang as in context #2 and indeed even prefer it over as long as? Mar 8, 2013 at 17:25
  • @ClintEastwood I wouldn’t make any recommendation for or against here. I use them both. I’d have to see a bunch larger context to say which way I might jump.
    – tchrist
    Mar 8, 2013 at 17:51
  • @ClintEastwood I’ve added some charts and notes that may help you here.
    – tchrist
    Mar 9, 2013 at 15:44
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    very, very helpful and informative! Mar 9, 2013 at 19:03
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    Your comment re: those who resent others who use an idiom not in their own dialect. I find, admittedly anecdotally, that in such cases the first person judges the second as "talking down to them," flaunting a more high-falutin' vocabulary, perhaps intended to belittle the first speaker. More often than not it is simply differences in regional dialect, but I have found some people view this as an unnecessary and unwanted correction.
    – user77909
    May 31, 2014 at 19:40

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