Timeline for Silent "w" in words starting with "wr-"
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| Dec 20, 2012 at 17:44 | vote | accept | Kit Z. Fox♦ | ||
| Dec 19, 2012 at 17:58 | comment | added | StoneyB on hiatus | @MarkBeadles I was thinking rather of jdstankosky's report that he does pronounce the /w/, and wondering if this reflects the [ʋ] pronunciation of /r/ which Wells discusses. | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 17:47 | comment | added | Mark Beadles | @StoneyB You can just say /r/ for English, since slashes are phonemic. I don't know of any modern dialects that distinguish /r-/ from /wr-/, as it says in your linked article: "Pairs such as wring – ring, write – right, wrap – rap are homophonous in all kinds of modern English" | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 17:38 | comment | added | StoneyB on hiatus | @MarkBeadles English {r} (? /r/ ? /R/ - I don't do this enough to remember the conventions) ANYway, r-sounds in English are complicated. I ran across a discussion on this one here, which appears to be what jdstankosky is talking about. | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 16:50 | comment | added | Robusto | English spelling is funny like that, and more than sometimes. | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 16:32 | comment | added | Mark Beadles | @jdstankosky 1. "are" and "our" are pronounced differently in certain dialects of English, and the same in others. It's incorrect to say universally that they "should not" be pronounced the same. 2. In most modern English dialects, the w is indeed silent in wr-. In yours I suppose it may not be. | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 16:28 | answer | added | John Lawler | timeline score: 16 | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 15:58 | comment | added | jdstankosky | Just like T in trap, nobody should be pronouncing it "Tuh-Rap". The T leads into the R. I pronounce the W the same way. It's subtle, not silent. This is along the same lines as "are" ('ahr') vs "our" ('owr'). They should not be pronounced the same, yet people do it anyways (heck, this I was how I was taught in grade school). | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 15:48 | comment | added | Kit Z. Fox♦ | @jdstankosky What? How do you pronounce that word/letter then? | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 15:41 | answer | added | StoneyB on hiatus | timeline score: 18 | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 15:34 | comment | added | jdstankosky | The W is not silent... why would it be silent? W doesn't make the "wuh" sound. | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 13:02 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackEnglish/status/281383930228248576 | ||
| Dec 19, 2012 at 12:20 | answer | added | user32047 | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 12:18 | comment | added | Andrew Leach♦ | Etymonline indicates a descent through Old English from Germanic/Norse heritage. I suspect it was pronounced (although not as a distinctly separate syllable wuh-reck, more ooreck) but I wasn't around a thousand years ago to say for certain. | |
| Dec 19, 2012 at 12:09 | history | asked | Kit Z. Fox♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |