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Sep 5, 2023 at 3:47 comment added Mars I also just realized that Steal your thunder doesn't actually apply to the situation at all. Stealing one's thunder is about outshining someone one who was expected to shine and has nothing to do with being first. If a celeb proposes at a normal person's wedding, they will steal the bride and groom's thunder, despite being the second event (after/during the first event--the wedding)
Sep 5, 2023 at 2:42 comment added Mars I guess this technically fits for the OP's phrasing of the question, but it doesn't work for any of OP's examples.
Sep 4, 2023 at 4:18 comment added Kirt @Flater I don't think I ever said that a correct answer had to have every facet necessary. I just pointed out one facet in which this answer was different from what OP sought. It is then OP's prerogative to find among the answers the one that fits their meaning best.
Sep 4, 2023 at 4:14 comment added Flater @Kirt: The point is more that not every facet (nor every possible way to stress something) is therefore a necessary one.
Sep 4, 2023 at 4:13 comment added Kirt @Flater It is certainly possible that there is no perfect translation. In that case an answer is not correct merely because it is close, but because it is the closest among those suggested.
Sep 4, 2023 at 4:10 comment added Flater @Kirt: I could continue your rebuttal with a philosophy on you owning thunder. Instead, it's more productive to consider that you might not get an atomically perfect translation. The question is whether the spirit is preserved. Stealing someone's thunder is done specifically to disadvantage the person - as opposed to simply competing with the person for the resource. If I take the last slice of pizza just because I want to deny you from having it, I'm stealing your thunder. If I did it because I was hungry, that's different. If OP's saying implies doing it spitefully, it's a correct answer.
Sep 2, 2023 at 23:11 comment added Graffito @Kirt: This is not wrong. If the "battle" was not too unfair, you may say I was pipped at the post in case of defeat.
Sep 2, 2023 at 20:04 comment added Kirt The difference here is that your thunder has always been yours, and the person stealing it has stolen directly from you. OP wants an expression for when you take something 'free' that was pledged or owed to someone else - it should have been theirs, but you ignored social convention and got to it first.
Sep 2, 2023 at 11:25 vote accept Seba fff
Sep 3, 2023 at 9:46
Sep 2, 2023 at 9:52 history answered Graffito CC BY-SA 4.0