Timeline for The pronunciation of "th" in "with" in British RP
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| Sep 17, 2018 at 3:54 | history | edited | herisson |
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| Sep 12, 2018 at 13:00 | comment | added | Mitch | @Nardog also there's the sound change like wolf -> wolves for th: bath /bæθ/-> bathe /be:ð/, path /pæθ/-> /pæðz/ (the latter seems to be not as common in the US anymore) | |
| Sep 12, 2018 at 12:33 | comment | added | Nardog | @Mitch I don't think it can be generalized because obviously RP speakers can still distinguish teeth/wreath and teethe/wreathe. That said, LPD reports 58% of British speakers preferred /ð/ in bequeath. Also apparently some speakers pronounce loath with /ð/ in both AmE/BrE, though /θ/ is more common in both. | |
| Sep 12, 2018 at 12:12 | comment | added | Mitch | @Nardog Another example of something I'd never have imagined that RP and AmE are so different in this one small thing. My first reading of the question is that that's crazy, everyone says /wiθ/. Does this generalize to other words ending in 'th'? | |
| S Sep 12, 2018 at 11:50 | history | suggested | Ahmed | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Punctuation.
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| Sep 12, 2018 at 6:58 | comment | added | Nardog | @KarlG While many American speakers always have a voiceless /θ/, the th in with IS voiced /ð/, at least in RP and in terms of phonemes. See my answer for more. | |
| Sep 12, 2018 at 6:34 | answer | added | Nardog | timeline score: 3 | |
| Sep 12, 2018 at 1:01 | history | edited | Cherry Blossom | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 11, 2018 at 23:00 | comment | added | KarlG | The th is not voiced in with. If you have difficulty with certain consonant combinations, say the first word normally, stop (but don't breathe), then start the next word, reducing the time you pause. With the th sound, concentrate on getting the tip of your tongue back in quickly — think of the darting tongue of a lizard or snake. | |
| Sep 11, 2018 at 22:09 | comment | added | Schwale | I presume you mean consonant. The issue, however, is not that complicated: when pronouncing with people, the ending sound with the first word requires you to use your tongue, whilst the beginning sound with the second requires you to do so with your lips. The problem you may be facing is due to your mother tongue and, as a result, it's taking you time to work with certain combinations. | |
| Sep 11, 2018 at 20:35 | comment | added | ParaH2 | You can use this website to compare the pronunciations of words with different accents. | |
| Sep 11, 2018 at 20:25 | review | First posts | |||
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| Sep 11, 2018 at 20:22 | history | asked | Cherry Blossom | CC BY-SA 4.0 |