Timeline for Did Emma Goldman first use the term “provocateur”?
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| May 2, 2019 at 17:30 | comment | added | Lambie | In French, you can be a provocateur and not be "un agent", necessarily. And in fact, in speech, French people talk about "faire de la provoc" (stir up trouble at a demonstration or otherwise) an idiom that comes from demonstration lingo. | |
| May 2, 2019 at 17:22 | answer | added | Lambie | timeline score: 1 | |
| May 2, 2019 at 12:16 | comment | added | Peter Shor | The link works fine for me. Anyway, here is a hopefully more readable link to the modern dictionary le Larousse. I think the unreadable link shows that agent provocateur could be shortened to provocateur in French by 1839. | |
| May 2, 2019 at 11:49 | comment | added | user 66974 | @PeterShor. unluckily your link is unreadable. Anyway it tells you that you need to qualify the generic term to refer to the activity of an agent provocateur otherwise it is just a generic term. | |
| May 2, 2019 at 11:42 | comment | added | Peter Shor | An 1839 French dictionary defines provocateur as a synonym for agent provocateur, as well as giving the generic definition. | |
| May 2, 2019 at 11:33 | comment | added | user 66974 | @PeterShor : le-dictionnaire.com/definition/provocateur | |
| May 2, 2019 at 11:28 | comment | added | Peter Shor | @user240918: what do you mean a generic term? | |
| May 2, 2019 at 11:27 | comment | added | user 66974 | @PeterShor - yes, but provocateur as a single term is a generic one. Here the usage refers to the activities of an agent provocateur, so provocateur in this sense is reasonably the short of it. | |
| May 2, 2019 at 11:23 | comment | added | Peter Shor | Note that in French provocateur can be either an adjective (as in agent provocateur) or a noun (as in le provocateur). So there's no reason to posit that provocateur was shortened from agent provocateur; it might have been a separate borrowing from the French. | |
| May 2, 2019 at 10:37 | vote | accept | user 66974 | ||
| May 2, 2019 at 5:36 | answer | added | Sven Yargs | timeline score: 3 | |
| Apr 28, 2019 at 20:51 | comment | added | Hot Licks | I find a number of uses of "the provocateur" prior to 1915: google.com/… | |
| Apr 28, 2019 at 20:35 | history | edited | Matt E. Эллен | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 21, 2018 at 3:59 | answer | added | Marissa A | timeline score: 1 | |
| Feb 20, 2018 at 21:34 | history | asked | user 66974 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |