Timeline for Why does "-ing" go to "-in" in some dialects?
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| Jan 11, 2017 at 3:18 | comment | added | herisson | Related question: Origin of “-ing” | |
| Dec 6, 2016 at 15:40 | comment | added | David Garner | Thanks again, @Sumelic. That's way beyond my comprehension, but it'll be worth my while picking out what I can. | |
| Dec 5, 2016 at 16:23 | vote | accept | Matthew Cline | ||
| Dec 4, 2016 at 22:08 | comment | added | herisson | @DavidGarner: this kind of analysis seems to me to be overly abstract if it's meant to represent a native speaker's internalized phonology, but that kind of thing is characteristic of "Generative Phonology" in my experience. | |
| Dec 4, 2016 at 21:01 | comment | added | David Garner | Fascinating stuff - thanks for the link, Sumelic. But, as a complete amateur, it seems to me that while it's reasonable to spell 'sing' as we do because it was once pronounced that way, the hypothetical Martian analysing English as spoken now would have to conclude that [n] and [ŋ] are separate phonemes. | |
| Dec 4, 2016 at 20:46 | comment | added | herisson | @DavidGarner: Here is a handout I found about the phonemicity of [ŋ] in English: linguistics.berkeley.edu/~mikkelsen/ling100/engma.pdf also John Wells wrote this books.google.com/… | |
| Dec 4, 2016 at 20:27 | comment | added | herisson | @DavidGarner: The idea is that "sing" is underlyingly something like /sɪng/, which contrasts with /sɪn/ by having /g/ at the end. Similar to how the [ʍ] in words like "where" (for speakers who still have that as a distinct sound from [w]) can be analyzed as a sequence /hw/. I've also heard that "hue" may phonetically be [çuː], but this can be analyzed phonemically as /hjuː/. | |
| Dec 4, 2016 at 20:23 | comment | added | David Garner | Surely the argument that [ŋ] is not a phoneme in (modern) English is blown by the simple old test: the words 'sin' and 'sing', for example, being distinguished only by [n] and [ŋ]. | |
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| Dec 4, 2016 at 16:57 | history | answered | herisson | CC BY-SA 3.0 |