Timeline for "Expectations of" vs. "expectations for"
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| Jul 2, 2016 at 0:21 | comment | added | user180089 | Also consider the prepositions 'about', 'concerning', and 'regarding'. These are even more specific than 'of' and 'for'. In order of specificity from least to most I would say it goes:................................of-->for-->about-->regarding-->concerning | |
| Jul 2, 2016 at 0:04 | comment | added | user180089 | @vanderpn 'association' is a very vague definition, which makes 'of' sound unnatural when used in this sentence. Pretty much anything can be associated with anything else. That's not to say that you'll get reprimanded by the grammar police for using 'of', but 'for' is the more natural sounding option here because of its specificity. | |
| Jul 2, 2016 at 0:00 | comment | added | TrevorD | Just another example: "expectations of my children" conveys your expectations about how they should behave or develop; whereas "expectations for my children" conveys more about what opportunities may be available to them. Expectations of/for yourself would be similar - whether it's how you would behave, or what opportunities you hope/expect to be available. The differences can be subtle. Hope that is of some help. | |
| Jul 1, 2016 at 23:54 | comment | added | TrevorD | The Q is still open & I've retracted my close vote. I did say "sometimes it's obvious" - and I fully accept that it may not be to everyone. But do take note that it depends on what follows rather than anything else; and that sometimes there is little difference between two choices. I'm afraid that explaining further is beyond my own understanding. I hope someone else can help you further. | |
| Jul 1, 2016 at 23:45 | history | edited | vpn | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Separated the nouns in the example sentence.
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| Jul 1, 2016 at 23:42 | comment | added | vpn | @TrevorD, if the definitions are not different, then why do the example sentences use the two different prepositions? You say it's "obvious"; to me it isn't. Hence, I am looking for some guidelines. I was hoping that even if you don't find them necessary, you might leave the question open to the community in case someone has input. | |
| Jul 1, 2016 at 23:40 | comment | added | vpn | @V0ight, I feel like that might be an oversimplification of the definitions of "of" and "for." "Of" can also indicate association with or reference to (dictionary.com/browse/of?s=t, definitions 7, 10). In that sense, can college indeed not have expectations associated with it, or in reference to it? | |
| Jul 1, 2016 at 23:36 | comment | added | TrevorD | I wasn't referring to the 'definitions', but to the example sentences (as I thought I made clear by quoting the relevant examples). If you expand the example sections, you will also see examples with expectations that, and some with no following preposition. It's what follows the word "expectations" that determines the wording. It's not as simple as saying one is for a person, one for an event, etc.. I can't give any clear rules off-hand: sometimes it's obvious; sometimes there may be a choice; ... . | |
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| Jul 1, 2016 at 23:26 | comment | added | vpn | @TrevorD, I fail to see much distinction between "A strong belief that something will happen..." and "A belief that someone will... achieve something." Is the difference that one is used for a person and another for an event? In that case, you used "expectation of myself" (a person), and the dictionary uses "expectation of a feast" (an event). | |
| Jul 1, 2016 at 23:20 | comment | added | user180089 | Have you looked at the definitions of 'of' and 'for'? of: expressing the relationship between a part and a whole. for: suiting the purposes or needs of. ------With these definitions in mind, 'for' seems like the more natural choice here. Also, if you eliminate the 'myself' in your sentences, you'll see that the objects 'college' and 'future' can't have 'expectations', so 'of' makes no sense in this context. | |
| Jul 1, 2016 at 23:11 | comment | added | TrevorD | It depends what follows. "my expectations of myself"; "my expectations for the match/game". A simple dictionary search will answer your question: I sat down in expectation *of a feast of nostalgia. Students had high expectations for their future.* | |
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