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Mar 7, 2016 at 13:00 vote accept Still.Tony
Mar 3, 2016 at 21:30 comment added Terah To quote part of your question: "because obviously there is a lot of communication happening" - that's the entire problem - there's a lot talking - not a lot of communicating ;)
Mar 3, 2016 at 21:27 comment added Terah I admit that it goes beyond just explaining what communication is - most of these courses do, as their aim is not only to explain what communication is, but how to be effective at it (ie. how to communicate in a way that doesn't lead to misunderstanding and time loss having to clear up those misunderstandings). I would not say they are re-defining communication though - it has always meant what is being explained there, it's just that regular folk never had a need to think so much about it, having time to explain it again or stand around going 'Uh..uh.. you know.' until it's understood.
Mar 3, 2016 at 21:21 comment added Still.Tony @Terah Actually, those slides you linked to are trying to redefine communication to the have the same meaning I'm trying to get at. While they definitely describe a fantastic ideal (that they call "effective communication," their definition goes beyond what communication alone conveys.
Mar 3, 2016 at 21:11 comment added MoondogsMaDawg @Terah Ah I see your point.
Mar 3, 2016 at 21:02 comment added Terah Poor communication, sure, but only because only one message was conveyed - leaving the circle of communication incomplete. Maybe these few slides will explain it better than I can at the moment :P
Mar 3, 2016 at 21:01 comment added Terah @Christopher D. - Well, that example was just to illustrate that conveying something, ie. making something known to someone, does not in itself constitute 'communication', but that it is just a part of it. Perhaps a better example is when someone calls home and say he won't be in time for dinner. He conveys a message, that we can assume to have been understood. However, communication is an ongoing thing - When will you be home? Do I need to save up food? The message was received, but the recipient needed more info before deeming the communication to have be succesful.
Mar 3, 2016 at 20:54 comment added MoondogsMaDawg @Terah Isn't your example an issue of poor communication rather than conveyance? If you intended to convey that I cut you off, you did not convey that by flipping the bird, you conveyed that you were angry, which I understood perfectly.
Mar 3, 2016 at 20:26 comment added Terah This is not 'communication'. I give you the finger and you stare blankly at me. I don't know if you realized that you almost ran me off the road, and even if you did, doing that to people is so normal for you that you might not understand why I conveyed to you that particular message. Without communication, I still would have conveyed a message, but there'd be no understanding between us.
Mar 3, 2016 at 20:23 comment added Still.Tony DOH! I just used convey in my comment above! Can't believe I didn't think of that.
Mar 3, 2016 at 20:22 history answered MoondogsMaDawg CC BY-SA 3.0