Timeline for word for "owners/operators of a pastry shop" and "patissier's wife"
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| Feb 2, 2016 at 19:59 | vote | accept | Elian | ||
| Jan 31, 2016 at 8:52 | comment | added | WS2 | @Elian alamy.com/… | |
| Jan 31, 2016 at 8:47 | comment | added | WS2 | @Elian But are there many shops making traditional pastries on the premises in America? I mean, apart from the chain formulations like Dunkin Donuts. There certainly aren't in Britain. One of the lovely things about staying in a French town always used to be popping out in the early morning to buy a baguette and catching the aroma from the patisserie - and ending up with a bagful for breakfast. . | |
| Jan 31, 2016 at 3:24 | comment | added | Drew | @HotLicks: His wife's name is also Otto. What's good for the pâtissier is good for the pâtissière. | |
| Jan 31, 2016 at 0:21 | comment | added | Elian | @WS2 Curiously, "patissier" is a more common word in BrEng than in AmEng books.google.com/ngrams/… | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 23:54 | comment | added | WS2 | @FumbleFingers In Britain, shops where they make pastries on the premises are much rarer than they are in France. And I would have said that there are few such shops which are not also bakeries. So we would normally buy pastries (if not boringly at the Co-Op supermarket) at the bakery in the High street. (And thankfully there is at least an English word for one who makes bread). Sadly we have now lost even our bakery (as well as greengrocers) and are reduced to having to buy everything at the supermarket, or else make it/grow it/ or lay it ourselves. | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 22:40 | comment | added | Hot Licks | @Elian - At work, news that someone had brought in pastries from Otto's would bring people from two buildings away. | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 21:09 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A | The pastry chef's wife runs the business. OR Mr and Mrs [Last Name] own and run a patisserie OR [First Name/Last Name]'s runs the business but her husband is the pastry chef. | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 20:47 | comment | added | Elian | @HotLicks Does Minnesotan Otto make good pastries? | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 20:38 | comment | added | Elian | @FumbleFingers Indeed, "pastry chef" sounds more to me like one who works in a Michelin-awarded restaurant or the like. I'd suspect "patissier" might be a better fit for an artisan selling their pastries from a shop. | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 19:14 | history | edited | Elian | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 30, 2016 at 18:56 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | As it happens, my lodger is a Hilton-trained pastry chef, but I'm not sure I've ever heard him describe himself as a patissier. | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 18:53 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | @Elian: I know French, so there's at least a chance I'd notice the feminine form. But it would never occur to me that you might mean the "pastry-maker's wife" as opposed to someone in that line of business who just happened to be female. Incidentally, if you're going to treat patisserie and derivatives as "English" words, they shouldn't have accents. | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 18:46 | comment | added | Elian | @FumbleFingers Then, would "pâtissière" for "pâtissier's wife" be easily perceived by native speakers, considering that the term "pâtissier" in English is apparently used for both a male and female pastry chef? "She's a renowned Scottish pâtissier (pastry chef)" vs. "The pâtissière (pâtissier's wife) was assaulted in her shop as she waited on customers" | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 18:39 | comment | added | Hot Licks | Around here the guy's called "Otto". I forget his wife's name. | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 18:08 | answer | added | Ricky | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 18:06 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | We don't even have a word for patisserie, which is why we use the French word in the first place. So I can't see we're likely to have a special word for the man who owns such a place, let alone his wife (regardless of whether she helps out with the business). | |
| Jan 30, 2016 at 17:55 | history | asked | Elian | CC BY-SA 3.0 |