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May 14, 2023 at 23:52 comment added Shane Kenyon There is a similar concept in many languages I'm sure. French has "je sais bien, mais quand-même" - "I know very well, but nevertheless" - there is an wide body of work in psychoanalysis on this very topic. One can recognize the fantasy ("hope") as fantasy but the paradox is that recognition still does not reduces its power over the individual. And so to hope beyond hope takes on a life of its own. cla.purdue.edu/academic/english/theory/psychoanalysis/…
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Jun 21, 2015 at 18:05 vote accept Paul Draper
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May 17, 2015 at 21:52 comment added Håkan Lindqvist idioms.thefreedictionary.com/hope+against+hope
May 17, 2015 at 13:55 comment added Hot Licks Yeah, I've always considered it to be a weird expression. Rhetorician's answer is probably the best bet for an explanation of the origin and fundamental meaning -- continuing to hope in spite of the fact that "reason" says there is no hope.
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May 17, 2015 at 11:11 comment added Oldbag Maybe it's that if you have nothing, all you can have is hope - so, the only thing to support your hope, is hope, itself. "Hoping against hope" = hope, with only hope to support it.
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May 17, 2015 at 1:01 comment added Paul Draper @DanBron, well I have no explanation at all for those three words, so your's is not a bad suggestion.
May 17, 2015 at 0:53 comment added Dan Bron You're right, it's weird. +1. I've always parsed it as "Hoping against [the fact that, in reality, there is no] hope", but I have absolutely no way to defend or support that from a grammatical or etymological perspective.
May 17, 2015 at 0:41 history asked Paul Draper CC BY-SA 3.0