Timeline for Which preposition to use with diagnosis?
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| Sep 25, 2017 at 13:55 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackEnglish/status/912314706316185600 | ||
| Aug 20, 2017 at 12:48 | comment | added | WS2 | @Kris Bronchitis can be "diagnosed with a stethoscope", but one cannot be diagnosed "with bronchitis". The whole point is that it is not the person who is "diagnosed". What is diagnosed is the illness, or lack of it. This is not only supported by the OED, but by the way that "diagnose" and "diagnosis" are used in other European languages, related to English. – | |
| Aug 20, 2017 at 12:31 | comment | added | WS2 | @anongoodnurse "I was diagnosed with lupus" is not the passive of "She diagnosed my lupus". The passive of the latter is "My lupus was diagnosed by her". The "I was diagnosed..." format, though widely used, is a mangling of the English language. The OED does not recognise it. A doctor does not diagnose a person, he/she diagnoses an illness. However when I raised the matter on this site I was shouted down, proving that EL & U thinks it knows more about the English language than the OED. | |
| Jan 12, 2015 at 10:37 | answer | added | Jon Hanna | timeline score: 7 | |
| Jan 12, 2015 at 7:52 | comment | added | Brian Hitchcock | I have compared them, and find the only difference to be the use of "her" VS "my". How does this differ in semantics or pragmatics? | |
| Jan 12, 2015 at 7:20 | comment | added | Kris | @medica We did agree that the NYT was right. | |
| Jan 12, 2015 at 7:19 | comment | added | anongoodnurse | @Kris - an explanation would be welcome. It is used often by the NYT. | |
| Jan 12, 2015 at 7:09 | comment | added | Kris | @medica NYT knows better than both of us. "since her diagnosis of mild cognitive impairment" is a different construction -- please compare with OP's for semantics and pragmatics. See also: Your previous comment. | |
| Jan 12, 2015 at 7:07 | comment | added | anongoodnurse | @Kris - according to whom? "In the two and a half years since her diagnosis of mild cognitive impairment at age 78, the woman learned..." New York Times. You should write a letter to the editor if you know something the writer doesn't. It appears often enough. | |
| Jan 12, 2015 at 6:52 | comment | added | Kris | "my diagnosis" cannot take the preposition of here, or it would give quite a different meaning. Use with instead. However, it's better to rephrase, because "my being diagnosed with" is what is really intended to be conveyed here. | |
| Jan 12, 2015 at 6:29 | comment | added | anongoodnurse | The doctor does diagnose things. That's the verb. "She diagnosed my lupus." active. "I was diagnosed with lupus." Passive. Whichever sounds better should be used. "I was diagnosed with cancer" sounds best. "My cancer was diagnosed 2 years ago." "I received the diagnosis (noun) of cancer two years ago" is correct as well, but sounds slightly formal/contrived. | |
| Jan 12, 2015 at 6:23 | comment | added | Kevin | What's wrong with "I was diagnosed with"? That's the most natural phrasing. | |
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| Jan 12, 2015 at 6:12 | history | asked | James | CC BY-SA 3.0 |