Timeline for The act of baiting someone into (incorrectly) calling bullshit
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| Sep 13, 2014 at 15:03 | vote | accept | Dan Bron | ||
| Sep 12, 2014 at 16:30 | comment | added | Gob Ties | @Alraxite Please feel free to add your own answer if you have a better suggestion. I think we've both made our positions on this one clear in the comments here. | |
| Sep 12, 2014 at 15:01 | comment | added | Gob Ties | @Alraxite I believe the OP is asking two separate things without meaning to. The first sentence of the OP is clearly double bluffing, while the part you're quoting isn't. | |
| Sep 12, 2014 at 14:41 | comment | added | Alraxite | This is clearly different and double bluffing is most certainly not the correct term for this situation. | |
| Sep 12, 2014 at 14:40 | comment | added | Alraxite |
@Geobits In the sentence that you describe: you have a good hand, you make it appear that you do have a good hand, your opponents think you're lying and then they call you. However, contrary to your claim, this most certainly wasn't the meaning of the OP's first example: "The word I'm looking for will describe (metaphorically) the act of pretending you have worse cards than you actually hold, in order to bait your opponent into calling you." They have good cards, and they pretend to have bad cards, the opponents think they do have bad cards, and so call. continued
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| Sep 12, 2014 at 12:56 | comment | added | Gob Ties | @Alraxite "Loudly proclaiming" can be replaced by "whatever you normally do to bluff". If I pull four kings in a game with friends, it would be perfectly natural for me to say something like, "Well, I just pulled my fourth king, do you guys just want to fold now or keep playing this out?" because this is a normal way we bullshit/bluff. I've told the direct truth (truthful action) while knowing that it will not be believed (because I said it as if it were a bluff). This is exactly what the OP describes in his first sentence; it baits them into calling me by telling them the truth. | |
| Sep 12, 2014 at 11:55 | comment | added | Tushar Raj | I second Alraxite. Double bluff does NOT describe the situation in question. | |
| Sep 12, 2014 at 6:54 | comment | added | Fattie | To put it very simply, baiting (the concept under discussion) has no connection, at all, to bluffing. (For example, the "rope a dope" suggestion, indeed, is "related to" baiting, although perhaps not right here. But "bluffing" isn't connected to baiting at all, it would seem.) | |
| Sep 12, 2014 at 6:53 | comment | added | Fattie | I can't see any connection - not even the slightest - - to the concept under discussion. "a truthful action that is executed as if it were a bluff" where is the "truthful action" part? where is the "executed" part? where is the "as if a bluff" part? Let the exact phenomenon DanB describes be called "X". Let's say that I, uh, PRETENDED to "do an X", BUT IN FACT ... etc etc etc. That could be a bluff our double-bluff (involving "X".) But again, "X" seems to have no connection to bluffing (or double or triple bluff). | |
| Sep 12, 2014 at 5:47 | comment | added | Alraxite | If that's the case, double bluffing isn't the correct description. Had he actually made it appear to have a good hand (while actually having a good hand) and had successfully made the opponent think that he is bluffing and that he has a bad hand, then that'd be double bluffing. Your second example would be a correct description of the word. But your first example looks ambiguous since your parenthetical remark "loudly proclaiming your ace-high flush" seems to contradict on what is outside the brackets ("make it appear you do not [have a good position]"), so I'm not sure what it means to say. | |
| Sep 12, 2014 at 5:43 | comment | added | Alraxite |
Unless I'm misinterpreting the OP's post, they're looking to describe a situation wherein a person has a good hand, is pretending he doesn't, thus causing the opponent to believe he doesn't have a good hand and thereby making the opponent to call him. continued
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| Sep 11, 2014 at 22:06 | comment | added | Janus Bahs Jacquet | This is actually really good. Part of me wants to object that it doesn't only refer to baiting someone to incorrectly call bullshit… but the other part of me can't for the life of, erm, it think of any cases or contexts where that's not exactly what a double bluff would boil down to! | |
| Sep 11, 2014 at 21:45 | comment | added | Adi | Actually, a "double bluff" is quite widely used. I've heard it in movies and TV shows many times. I usually use it to describe when I intentionally make holes in my story to make somebody think it's a lie, as a form of extra-covert "Barium meal". | |
| Sep 11, 2014 at 18:51 | comment | added | Dan Bron | Ah, that's exactly the meaning I was seeking. If no one comes up with a more widely-employed synonym in a day or two, I'll accept this. +1 for now. | |
| Sep 11, 2014 at 18:42 | history | answered | Gob Ties | CC BY-SA 3.0 |