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Are there any differences between these two forms? Example:

  1. "It has been done so as + to make it easier for academics and other judges to refer to a particular passage in a judicial decision."

  2. "It has been done so + to make it easier..."

Source: P176, Letters to a Law Student by Nicholas McBride

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  • @tchrist Why did you replace the "prepositions" tag with the "conjunctions" tag?
    – F.E.
    Jun 28, 2014 at 3:12
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    @tchrist Really? So, is that source phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/dick/tta/wc/conjunctions.htm on the level of a wikipedia page? By the way, why do they use "dick" in that path?
    – F.E.
    Jun 28, 2014 at 4:48
  • @tchrist That's a, er, real impressive page on "conjunctions". Who is it written for? Linguistics students?
    – F.E.
    Jun 28, 2014 at 5:05
  • @tchrist Well, since you insist, lemme look here into a vetted grammar source, er, like the 2002 CGEL, and on page 727, they talk about "(a) PPs with clausal complements -- finite clauses or infinitivals", and provide the example [7.iv] "He phoned everybody before the meeting [so as to be sure of a quorum]". -- Now, that seems to support the OP's use of the "prepositions" tag. So, why don't you now tell us why it matters so much that you went to the trouble to replace the OP's "prepositions" tag with your "conjunctions" tag.
    – F.E.
    Jun 28, 2014 at 6:07
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    Could you give us some more context please @LePressentiment? Your second example could be one of several constructions ... Jun 28, 2014 at 13:57

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Yes they are different

"It was done so as to make it easier." could be expressed as:

"It was done in order to make it easier." or as
"It was done to make it easier."

While "It was done so to make it easier." could be expressed as:

"It was done in that manner to make it easier."

You could combine both with "It was done so, so as to make it easier."

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  • Differences were asked for, a difference was given.
    – Neil W
    Jun 28, 2014 at 3:51
  • Very well then. Edit your post somehow to amplify that thought or make it look tidier or fix the missing punctuation, and I’ll retract my down vote.
    – tchrist
    Jun 28, 2014 at 3:54
  • On the button - succinct and helpful for the Original Poster and other readers ... like me! :) Jun 28, 2014 at 4:05
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    -1 so is also very commonly used for so that and so as to esp., in conversation/ informal writing.
    – Kris
    Jun 28, 2014 at 6:58
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    @Araucaria I’ve now found you a half-dozen instances where done so to [verb] is used in a way that means the same thing as dropping the so altogether, or swapping in in order in its place.
    – tchrist
    Jun 28, 2014 at 15:12
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In Short (or tl;dr)

These all say the same thing (well, or can say the same thing; see below):

  1. It has been done so as to permit   air to circulate freely.
  2. It has been done so to permit   air to circulate freely.
  3. It has been done in order to permit   air to circulate freely.
  4. It has been done to permit   air to circulate freely.
  5. It has been done so (that) air can circulate freely.

(The fifth shows an alternate version with a finite clause instead.)

Of the to-infinitives, the fourth is best because it is shortest; the earlier ones are padded yet say the same thing as number four does.


Ambiguity?

In the second instance, done so to [verb], an ambiguity exists that cannot be completely resolved without more context being given. The first reading is given above, while the second reading equates these instead:

  1. It has been done   so             to permit  air to circulate freely.
  2. It has been done   like that  to permit  air to circulate freely.
  3. It has been done   that way  so that      air can circulate freely.

First Reading

In one reading, so to + infinitive is expressing simple purpose, just like in order to + infinitive does:

  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire so to have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.
  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire so as to have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.
  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire in order to have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.

Or with that instead of to:

  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire in such a way that we will have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.
  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire. This is done (so) that we (may) have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.
  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire so that we (may) have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.
  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire in order that we (may) have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.
  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire that we (might/shall) have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.

Second Reading

However, an alternate way to read so to + infinitive interprets so to mean thus or in this/that way; that is, it refers back to the matter that has come previously, making for these equivalences:

  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire. We do this to have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.
  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire; this way we have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.
  • We always lay a heavy log upon the hearth before we retire. We do so so that we may have hot embers awaiting us when we arise before dawn.

Documentation

In §VI of the OED2’s entry for so adv. and conj. (ɴᴏᴛᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴄᴀʀᴇ: the OED does not consider so to be a “preposition”!), the editors present the equivalence of the three conjunctions:

28. a.    so··, or so··as, so as, followed by an infinitive denoting result or consequence.

The monumental An Historical Syntax of the English Language by Fredericus Theodorus Visser from 1979 covers the use of the infinitive as an adverbial adjunct quite well. In §965 on page 1019 of Volume I, Visser describes the type characterized by:

965 — Type ‘He had put on his globes so as to be ready’

Here the infinitive is preceded by so as to (viz. without any words between so as in the preceding section). Whether the infinitive group expresses result or purpose is not in all the examples easy to ascertain, the line of demarcation between these two notions being often extremely vague.

Occasionally the subject of the infinitive is expressed by inserting a (pro)noun beween so as and the to + infinitive. In later Modern English this (pro)noun is preceded by for in this case: [. . .]

There are a few examples of the use of so to instead of so as to to express result. This idiom is now obsolete: [. . .]

As I read them, both the OED and Visser feel that the omission of as in so (as) to is now considered either ‘irregular’ (OED) or ‘obsolete’ (Visser) when expressing a result. Whether they also consider the omission of as when expressing a purpose is not given.

I may not be reading something correctly here regarding obsolescence or irregularity. I say this because modern examples of (apparently) using so to to express purpose can be produced. Here are a few that I believe qualify:

  1. We don't call “moving in” marriage, since it is done so to intentionally avoid the obligations of the marriage vows.
  2. Plundering and undermining are done so to gain wealth and to discredit the faith and spiritual vitality of the people.
  3. Deceptions practiced are done so to achieve one or more of those goals.
  4. And the lists that we then compile, are done so to respond to the specific requests of the person asking for the information. . . .
  5. All the good works performed by the fraternity or sorority were done so to glorify Christ.

To me, these modern examples suggest that using so to with the sense of in order to remains a viable reading. It is for this reason that my in brevis abstract at the top of this posting equated the four versions that it did.

However, as Araucaria has kindly observed in comments, in at least some cases there may be wiggle room in deciding whether so is used anaphorically to refer back to the earlier part of the phrase.


Summary

Contemporary readers, especially ones unfamiliar with “older” English literature (say, through the 19th century, the last such citation given by the OED or Visser), may fail to recognize the dual readings possible with so to, and therefore only ever see it as meaning thus or in this way combined with in order to.

But while the majority of the modern instances of done so to are using so to mean in that way, others do not.

The original question does not give enough context to give one short and simple answer that is also correct, and complete.



Postscript: Preposition or Conjunction?

There has been some discussion in comments as to whether things like so as and in order are prepositions or conjunctions. The answer, substantiated below from four documented sources, is that these are indeed conjunctions, albeit subordinating ones not coördinating ones.

To start with, both the Oxford English Dictionary and the Oxford English Grammar of 1996 maintain that constructions like so as and in order are subordinating conjunctions, and that they can be followed either by non-finite verb clauses or by that and a normal subordinate clause.

From Oxford English Grammar of 1996 on page 158, with all italics in the original:

Some subordinators are restricted to certain types of non-finite or verbless clauses: for, in order to, in order for, so as, with, without.

[. . .]

  • [32]: I sometimes wonder whether Stephen actually went to prison in order to have something to talk about when he came on this show.

Next, this same position is also taken by Quirk’s Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language of 1985, which on page 1004 reads as follows, with all emphasis in the original. The first and last sentences are the salient ones here:

14.17 Subordinators for to-infinitive clauses

To-infinitive clauses may be introduced by several subordinators: as if, as though, for, in order, so as, whether . . . (or), with, and without. For in this function is restricted to infinitive clauses with their own subject, and indeed is often obligatory (cf 15.10):

  • It would be absurd idea for them to move to another house at this state of their careers.

Since for may be combined with the subordinator in order to, it seems to be a device for introducing the subject rather than to be a true subordinator:

  • In order for you to be eligible for a student grant, you parents must receive less than a stipulated annual income.

Whether (with or without correlative or) introduces a subordinate interrogative clause:

  • I don’t know whether to put on the air-conditioning today.

In the absence of a subject in the subordinate clause, the subject is understood as identical with that of the matrix clause.

This shows that both Oxford and Cambridge include so as and in order among their list of subordinators (read, subordinating conjunctions), no matter whether these introduce a non-finite clause or a finite one.

As one final reference supporting this placement — and although I am rather shy about citing crowd-sourced material, particularly in the absence of duly footnoted references — I cannot help but observe that the Wiktionary page listing English prepositions includes none with so in them. They do of course include as there, too, while noting that as can also be an adverb or a conjunction — the selfsame categories into which so has traditionally fallen.


Apparently Messrs. Huddleston and Pullum have decided to reclassify subordinating conjunctions as prepositions when their argument is a non-finite verb clause but leave them as conjunctions when followed by a finite clause.

Makes no sense to me, but this would hardly be the first time I’ve caught Pullum barking up the wrong tree.

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    Does needless verbosity include sesquipidelian phrases like "are but needless verbosity" ? Jun 28, 2014 at 3:24
  • @Araucaria There ain’t no eighteen-inch words here, ma’am, just simple ones.
    – tchrist
    Jun 28, 2014 at 3:26
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    You said: "Next, this same position is also taken by The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language of 2006, which on page 1006 reads as follows, with all emphasis in the original." -- Er, say what? You sure you got the right reference grammar there? I've found your excerpt in the older 1985 reference grammar by Quirk et al., A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language, section 14.17, page 1004. You might want to also cite from the more recent 2002 reference grammar by Huddleston and Pullum et al., because, well, it is more recent.
    – F.E.
    Jun 29, 2014 at 5:24
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    @F.E. Perhaps you should actually post an answer instead of arguing in comments: that way you can be subject to a vote of confidence.
    – tchrist
    Jun 29, 2014 at 16:38
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    Perhaps you should re-read your own posts and stop making those kind of errors. And, you are welcome that I pointed out that error, or would you rather that no one pointed out that error to you? Anyone who's read the 2002 CGEL would know right away that excerpt was bogus. And why would I want, or need, a vote of confidence, and from whom? Also, notice that I wasn't "arguing" with you in my previous comment--you were being corrected as to the bogus and misleading info you had put into your post.
    – F.E.
    Jun 29, 2014 at 21:44

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