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Conditionals with multiple verbs Seems interesting. I could definitely point students in that direction once it's up and running and participate. If there is anything else I could do to help let me know. |
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Conditionals with multiple verbs Haha Thank you. I'll accept our conclusion for now but I'm going to keep my eye open for some examples like this in grammar books. |
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Conditionals with multiple verbs @StoneyB I couldn't agree more. These specific cases in which the large majority of native speakers use the incorrect form are interesting. If I'm going to go against what most people would intuitively say (even other teachers probably) I want to be sure that what I am saying is correct. |
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Conditionals with multiple verbs @StoneyB I agree with your logic but usage seems to disagree. |
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Conditionals with multiple verbs I'm not arguing how we should put the verb "to be" in the subjunctive, I'm arguing whether we should use the subjunctive. We can use the verb have instead.... If he knew I had a million dollars now, he would call. VS If he knew I have a million dollars, he would call. ... I think If he knew I had is correct however it bothers me because I actually DO have a million dollars in this case so logically the verb shouldn't be subjunctive. |
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Conditionals with multiple verbs Haha If it were only that simple! If I didn't have to teach and explain this stuff I'd probably agree with you. |
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Conditionals with multiple verbs Look at my reply to David's comment. Your conclusion may be correct but that does not entail that your reasoning is. Please look at my reply to David Wallace's response below. "Perhaps then there is a rule that in a conditional clause using the present subjunctive all verbs on the clause should follow the subjunctive form even if they are indicative?" |
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Conditionals with multiple verbs @FumbleFingers I disagree with your "the entire conjecture is hypothetical" the hypothetical part is his "knowing" but the fact that I "am" home is factual. |
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Conditionals with multiple verbs We could be on to something here. Perhaps then there is a rule that in a conditional clause using the present subjunctive all verbs on the clause should follow the subjunctive form even if they are indicative? |
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Conditionals with multiple verbs The precise problem is that I agree with you both! I think logically/grammatically it makes sense to say "I'm here" but it just sounds so wrong! Obviously the google search proves that point. I want to believe that we must be overlooking something and that so many people are not wrong. |
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