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I have trouble telling when I’m overusing commas. My question is if the comma between undertake and whether is needed:

I am passionate about the quality of work I undertake, whether it be school work, or cooking food in the kitchen.

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The first comma is fine, the second comma is wrong. The easy test is to say the out loud. You almost have to pause between "undertake" and "whether", but you cannot pause between "work" and "or". – David Schwartz Nov 24 '12 at 18:43
ok, thanks for your help – JaPerk14 Nov 24 '12 at 18:44
There is a far more interesting question here about commas between alternatives in a list than the original one about a comma in a specific and localised sentence. Although it would have helped that if comments had not been deleted. – Andrew Leach Nov 24 '12 at 18:49

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Don't use commas to separate lists of two.

  1. School work.
  2. Cooking food.

I am passionate about the quality of work I undertake, whether it be school work or cooking food in the kitchen.

However, if you had a third item on the list, you'd want to add commas:

I am passionate about the quality of work I undertake, whether it be school work, or cooking food in the kitchen, or writing a report for my job.

While some argue that the third comma is not necessary, (the AP style book, for example, urges against it) I have found that it helps keep things organized and clear in many cases. I have had to reread sentences countless times due to what should be unnecessary ambiguity.

However, as one other user pointed out, adding the extra Oxford comma is not a panacea, and should be avoided when the grouping effect would otherwise create ambiguity. Ultimately, though, as the author, it is up to you to decide. There is no universal rule regarding the extra comma, and my bringing it up is only to give you some food for thought. For now, though, just know that your first comma is perfectly correct, and the second is not. :) Happy writing!

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+1 Consumed with admiration - and envy. As far as I'm concerned, the Oxford comma question is now dead. – StoneyB Nov 24 '12 at 21:15
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-1 because this does not answer the question, and the question it does answer it answers in a deliberately misleading way. There are instances where the exact opposite is true, i.e. adding the Oxford comma actually introduces ambiguity that otherwise wouldn't be there. The dedicated question we have on the subject handles this with much more grace. And it does not even resort to naked Stalins in the process. – RegDwighт Nov 24 '12 at 23:03
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If you can provide an example of the Oxford comma resulting in ambiguity, I will happily change my answer. :) – Nathanael Shermett Nov 24 '12 at 23:29
If you can actually click on the link I did provide (or just visit wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma#Creating_ambiguity), I will happily wait for you to change your answer accordingly. – RegDwighт Nov 24 '12 at 23:34
Or you can click on this link from a similar discussion yesterday to find an example of a serial comma creating ambiguity. – Bill Franke Nov 25 '12 at 0:42

I concur with Nathaniel about the comma rules. However, there is an ambiguity in the sentence not yet addressed.

Consider this fragment:

...I undertake, whether it be school, work, or cooking ...

versus:

...I undertake, whether it be schoolwork or cooking...

This becomes less of a question about the use of the Oxford comma, and more about whether the writer meant to use the word schoolwork or was intending school and work to be thought of as two separate items in the list.

Additionally, while it is not grammatically incorrect to say "cooking food in the kitchen". It is, however, awkward. English, like most languages, has some built-in assumptions. Most native English speakers would not say "I enjoy cooking food in the kitchen."

If one says "I enjoy cooking", we would fill in the blanks and assume that you meant food, and that you do it in the kitchen.

We would feel free to fill out these details if there was something about it that was special. It's certainly worth going out of your way to say "I enjoy cooking wild game over an open fire."

Not trying to be difficult, just trying to advise on some of the things that English learners or young people might get hung up on.

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