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How does one correctly form the "north" and "south" forms for which occident and orient are "west" and "east"?

I found boreal and austral, but those look like adjectives and I'm after the nouns.

Bonus: what about "up" and "down"?

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I like 'zenith' and 'nadir' for 'up' and 'down', but definitely 'boreal' and 'austral' for 'north' and 'south'. Bonus points all round. :) – android.weasel May 18 '12 at 16:48

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The words orient and occident are two of the set of six French words

orient, occident, zénith, nadir, septentrion, midi,

which form the set you were looking for. The word septentrion (north) is obsolete in English, and I can find no evidence that midi (formerly spelled midy) was ever an English word at all.

In Old French, the word méridien was used instead of midi (see wikipedia), so another possible sixth term is meridian, which is indeed an English word which has occasionally been used to mean the opposite of septentrion; see for example this reference from Google books. So maybe the best answer is:

orient, occident, zenith, nadir, septentrion, meridian.

You shouldn't expect anybody to understand the meaning of the last two terms without explanation, though.

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Midi is in Chambers, defined as "The south (of France)." – Bravo May 17 '12 at 11:50
@Shyam: that is also the current meaning in French. – nico May 17 '12 at 14:26
+1 about the explanation for the last two. Meridian always makes me think of the dividing line or middle. – user14070 May 17 '12 at 15:49
Zenith and nadir are English, but the other two are not recognizable for what they are intended. – Mitch May 17 '12 at 16:27
Indeed, if you want to be understood you should use orient, occident, zenith, nadir, north, south. – Peter Shor May 17 '12 at 20:30

I think boreal and austral may be the closest you'll get.

According to Etymonline, The noun form of austral is an English word:

auster "south wind," late 14c., from L. auster "the south wind; the south country" (see Australia).

However, the noun form of boreal, is only the Latin for north wind, boreas, or the name of the Greek god of the north wind, Boreas.

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Boreal and austral are certainly what I’ve always used. Boreal forests and all. Plus the two aurorae. – tchrist May 17 '12 at 16:52
@tchrist Haha - I'm struck by the idea of an a-boreal forest: a forest with no trees? Oh.. damn: ar-boreal. Doesn't work. :o) – android.weasel May 31 '12 at 14:46
@Callithumpian - I think that's the closest to Orient and Occident - I can imagine trains called 'The Auster Express' or 'The Boreas Express'. Perhaps I'll put them into the novel I'm writing in my copious free time. – android.weasel May 31 '12 at 14:54

In Portuguese the words are "meridional" and "setentrional", both with roots on French. I checked on-line and saw that "Meridional" and "Septentrional" are valid English words.

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North and south can both be nouns, enabling us to speak of the North and the South, just as we speak of the Orient and, perhaps less often, the Occident. To be consistent, we'd then have to speak of the East and the West.

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But it was precisely 'How would I style a word based on "Boreal" to refer to "The North", and "Austral" to refer to "The South", if I wanted it to be consistent with "The Orient" and "The Occident"' that I sought in asking my question. I already know about 'The East' and 'The West', but those are plain workaday words with no mystique and little poetry. – android.weasel May 18 '12 at 16:55

I would say Boreas for north and Auster for south.

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Welcome to ELU! @Callithumpian also provided these terms (with explanations) in his answer... do you have some additional reasoning or insight to differentiate your answer from his? – Hellion Feb 2 at 16:53
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Perhaps the closest you might get to a modern correspondent to "austral" is "the Antipodes" (and adjective Antipodean).

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Antipodes just means two opposite points, it says nothing about their absolute position. – nico May 17 '12 at 14:30

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