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If someone has the wrong end of the stick it means they've misunderstood something.

If they've got the shitty end of the stick it means they've got a bad deal in some bargain or share-out. This doesn't seem particularly close to the wrong end meaning - so unless someone convinces me different, I'm not inclined to think these idioms share a common origin.

Does anyone know where either or both of these expressions come from?

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Wait, if you grabbed a stick by the shitty end, you wouldn't think you'd grabbed the wrong end? I would. – bee.catt Jun 28 '12 at 21:01
@bee.catt: I guess. But to be honest, even if the shit was on the other end of the stick, I'd rather not have to get that particular stick (I'd rather get either end of a completely non-shitty stick! :) – FumbleFingers Jun 28 '12 at 21:14
True enough. But if you must touch a stick with shit on it (and hey, shit happens, so it's not an impossibility), I would say the non-shitty end would be the right end and vice versa. – bee.catt Jun 28 '12 at 21:19
@bee.catt: <slaps forehead> I momentarily forgot! Yeah - shit happens (tell that to all the people with constipation! :) – FumbleFingers Jun 28 '12 at 21:25
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According to http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/end-of-the-stick.html, the two share the same origin, not really diverging in meaning until 1850 or so.

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The link doesn't work for me. This one does: phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/16/messages/241.html – belisarius May 16 '12 at 2:57

Before toilet paper and Sears catalogs, there was a wooden spatula called the stick. If you were in the outhouse after dark and you had to find the stick in the dark, you had a good chance of finding the wrong, dirty, shitty end of the stick. Not everyone could afford candles or lanterns, and sometimes the wind would blow them out anyway.

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The "stick" refers to a printer's stick when typeset were physical letters. A novice would often fill the printer stick in the wrong order, in which case, the print would not be as expected, e.g. "print" would appear as 'tnirp', hence, grabbing the wrong end of the stick.

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The wrong end of the stick is usually explained as having come from Roman culture. Toilet paper had not been invented in Roman times so, they usually used a sponge on a stick, like this http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AKCoVbCisFw/UCnEu4eqv1I/AAAAAAAAAew/OzR_GuiOqDM/s1600/spongestick.jpg The end with the sponge, was used to clean themselves. If someone was not paying attention when it came time to use a stick, they could pick it up by the wrong end. There is an explanation here http://www.cracked.com/article_16108_the-bizarre-history-10-common-sayings_p2.html

That link also says:

There is, though, another origin that's widely held to be the true one. The origin pertains to walking sticks and accidentally grabbing the dirty, non-handled end, the "wrong end."

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