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A lot of people say this when they are challenging someone else:

I'll verse you.

I thought this sentence was grammatically correct. However one day my computer teacher got into an argument with us about it. He whipped out a dictionary and began searching the word "verse" and told us the definition and said that saying "verse" as in challenging is wrong. It should be used as in Home verses Guest. Is that right? If it is, why does the majority say it this way?

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If I may, may I ask why was my question downvoted? I don't understand. –  Phonics The Hedgehog Jul 22 '11 at 21:29
I think it is because your question was originally asked on the meta site, which was not the right forum. It has since been migrated here, but I guess the old downvotes remain. –  nohat Jul 22 '11 at 23:21

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Your teacher is correct.

I believe that you're mixing up verses vs. versus. Versus should be used in the sense of challenging or opposing someone or something.

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You are correct about the word that it's versus that the attempted verb verse seems to come from. However, versus does not have a standard form that can be used as a verb in the sense of challenging someone. I think your answer may lead the OP to an incorrect conclusion. –  sarah Nov 17 '13 at 3:09

There is no such verb as verse (with third-person singular present tense form verses). The word is versus, it comes from Latin, and it is a preposition that means, basically, against.

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If it is true that "A lot of people are saying 'I'll verse you'", then plainly there is such a verb, even if it hasn't got into any dictionaries yet. No doubt it derives from a reanalysis of "versus", but that is how language changes. –  Colin Fine Jul 22 '11 at 12:26
In my experience mostly children say this, who then later learn it is incorrect. Perhaps enough children will never learn it is incorrect, and it will become a part of the language, but I wouldn't make that prediction until I observe many adults say it too. –  nohat Jul 22 '11 at 15:29
"To verse" (v.tr.) is hardly a neologism. She tried to verse herself in the rules of football so she wouldn't be embarrassed at her first tailgate party. "To school" has a similar meaning, although one connotes learning through exposure, experience, or self-study, and the other connotes institutional training. Since "to school" has a more colloquial usage of "to best in a fight," the most you can probably hope for is the death of the notion that "I'll verse you" is some kind of backformation of "versus." –  Phil N. Jan 27 '12 at 21:54
@PhilN. You refer to a completely different word than the one the OP refers to, which isn't actually verses, but versus. –  sarah Nov 17 '13 at 2:54

I have heard many children incorrectly use this term "verse" as a verb. (In terms of a challenge, as in: "Me verse you.")
But last week, I logged my first observance of an adult using the term this way. I meant to ask if she had young kids, but I didn't get the opportunity.

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I believe this has become more common with the rise of console video games in which players battle against one another. For example, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, a popular Nintendo game, will have a dramatic voice say "VERSUS!" when showing the character screen. I'm guessing that children and teens hear this and interpret it to mean "This character verses this character!", as a verb. They don't realize it's a preposition meaning "against".

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