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I assume that the following sentences are grammatically correct:

  • He resents your being more popular than he is.
  • Most of the members paid their dues without my asking them.
  • They objected to the youngest girl's being given the command position.
  • What do you think about his buying such an expensive car?
  • We were all sorry about Jane's losing her parents like that.

I'm still getting used to this possessive gerund structure. It sounded me so weird at first.

Is the structure used in both formal and informal contexts? Are there any alternative structures that result in the same meaning and are more frequently used?

(Examples taken from http://grammartips.homestead.com/possessivewithgerund.html)

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It sounded weird to me when I first heard about this usage too, in the context of a grammar lesson in middle school. Much like the linked page with the examples in the question does, the teacher taught us that using possessive pronouns (also known as genitives) is the only grammatical way to mark subjects of gerund clauses. And indeed, it is the the more traditional, formal way to do it, even though using object pronouns (accusatives) is also quite common.

This is discussed in the Cambridge Grammar of the English Language, in chapter 14 “Non-finite and verbless clauses”, section 4.3. The main thrust of this section is to lay waste to the traditional distinction between gerund and present participle clauses, and argue that they all belong to a single inflectional category, calling them all gerund-participles. However, there is a paragraph explaining use of genitives with gerunds:

There is one respect in which ‘gerund’ and ‘present participle’ clauses differ in their internal form: with ‘gerunds’ the subject may take genitive case, with plain or accusative case a less formal alternant, but with ‘present participles’ the genitive is impossible and pronouns with a nominative–accusative contrast appear in nomiative case, with accusative an alternant restricted to informal style. Compare then:
[39] i. She resented his/him/*he being invited to open the debate.
       ii. We appointed Max, he/him/*his being much the best qualified of the candidates.

What this is saying is that the constructions that are traditionally known as gerunds (as in example 39i) can take either the genitive (his) or the accusative (him) as subject, noting that accusative is “a less formal alternant”. The nominative (he) is not possible as the subject of a gerund. They add that in participial clauses that can have a subject, there is a similar situation: both the nominative (he) and accusative (him) are possible, with the accusative being less formal, but the genitive (his) is not possible.

The link where the original poster’s examples come from exhibits the common problem in grammar advice of confusing informal style with incorrect grammar. The versions of the examples with accusative instead of genitive (e.g. What do you think about him buying such an expensive car?) are perfectly grammatical and simply just a less stuffy style than those with the genitive. If you want my advice, you will find many examples of gerunds with accusative subject even in formal academic writing, so you should feel free to use whichever of the two formulations that seems most natural to you.

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Great explanation! I had wondered about this too. Btw, do you agree with Steve about examples 3 and 5? – Jonik Sep 6 '10 at 19:52
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There actually can be cases where the two forms are semantically distinct. "I hate John driving" means that you hate the idea of John driving, while "I hate John's driving" means that you hate John's style of driving. Just an interesting added factoid — I don't really have a good analysis of it. – Kosmonaut Sep 6 '10 at 22:49
@Jonik, the only one where I might use the genitive form would be #1. All the rest I would almost certainly use the accusative with. On editing, though, I might change them to genitive. Old habits inculcated by strict teachers die hard. – nohat Sep 7 '10 at 0:06
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I will throw in a link to the wonderfully informative Language Log entry that was published two weeks after this question (and your answer) had been posted: Possessive with gerund: Tragic loss or good riddance? – RegDwighт Oct 12 '10 at 11:50
This is just him being a linguist. – Robusto Jun 9 '12 at 19:33

It is perhaps worth adding the contrast identified in the ‘Longman Student Grammar of Spoken and Written English’:

When the possessive alternative is used, it focuses attention on the action described in the ‘-ing’ clause. In contrast the regular Noun Phrase form puts more emphasis on the person doing the action.

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+1 I always thought this was the primary distinction, not an additional feature -- that there indeed is a distinction. – Kris Apr 11 at 6:24
@Kris: For it to be a primary distinction would require that most competent speakers normally make that distinction consciously, which I think is highly unlikely. – FumbleFingers 2 days ago

Just to comment on common usage (in British English, at least):

Examples 1, 2 and 4, which use possessive pronouns, look OK, but are somewhat formal. I'd be more likely to use the accusative forms, namely:

He resents you being more popular than he is.

Most of the members paid their dues without me asking them.

What do you think about him buying such an expensive car?

I can believe that examples 3 and 5, which use nouns, may be grammatically correct, but they look wrong, and I do not recall seeing or hearing that particular construction used. I would drop the "-'s" in both cases.

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