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I've seen cases where a noon-time meal is referred to as dinner, and the evening meal is called supper. There's also lunch around noon followed by dinner in the evening. Is there a particular difference between dinner and supper, or a circumstance where lunch becomes dinner?

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Dinner is considered to be the "main" or largest meal of the day. Whether it takes place at noon or in the evening is mostly a cultural thing. For instance, many people who grew up in the American South and/or on farms traditionally ate larger meals at noontime to give them the strength to keep working through the afternoon.

Supper is more specifically a lighter evening meal. Rooted in the word "to sup", it comes, again, from farming traditions — many farming families would have a pot of soup cooking throughout the day, and would eat it in the evening — specifically, they would "sup" the soup.

Lunch is almost the midday equivalent of supper — it's also a lighter and less formal meal than Dinner, but is used specifically when referring to a midday meal. So whether you use lunch/dinner or dinner/supper is heavily determined by when your culture traditionally has its largest meal.

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Is this BrE? In my version of AmE lang/culture (pretty mainstream) whatever the size of the meal, 'lunch' is midday and 'dinner' or 'supper' is in the evening. –  Mitch Apr 25 '11 at 21:44
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There's actually quite a bit of variation in different regions of the US. As I said, it's quite common to hear Dinner as the noontime meal in many areas of the American South. I've noticed that there's even a split in Texas where some regions use Lunch/Dinner and others use Dinner/Supper. These differences have tended to mix up and get confused as people from different regions have mixed, and I've noticed "lunch" used for noonday meals much more unilaterally by today's young generations. –  matthias Apr 26 '11 at 4:03
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@Mitch: As an American, I'd mostly agree with Matthias that "lunch" refers to a noon-time meal and "supper" to an evening meal regardless of size, while "dinner" specifically refers to a larger or more formal meal. That said, people often use "dinner" to refer to an evening meal regardless of the size. I think the usage is a little ambiguous there. PS I've lived most of my life in Ohio and Michigan, maybe the usage is different in other parts of the country. –  Jay Nov 28 '11 at 18:47
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@jay: what you said sounds to me more like what -I- said rather than matthias. I say: Lunch = midday (any size) supper or dinner = evening (any size), but sometimes dinner is a big special meal instead of linch or supper, like Sunday dinner or Thanksgiving dinner. When a kid we only used supper but now only dinner. –  Mitch Nov 28 '11 at 19:45
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My grandfather (a farmer in NE Oklahoma) would regularly refer to a large midday meal as "supper". –  T.E.D. Sep 19 '13 at 20:30

In working-class families in the North of England, dinner was traditionally the noon-time meal, and there is an afternoon or evening meal called tea. However, this is changing to some extent as people move about and some try to sound more "Southern". (English usage in the South of England, or sometimes, more particularly the South-East, is generally taken to be "correct" English, as in this case.)

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A funny article on the topic in question, which might provide deeper insight into the cultural differences involved. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8223453.stm –  Blowski Apr 24 '11 at 18:08
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When I went to Yorkshire last year in a weekend trip, I heard for the first time people referring to the noon-time meal as dinner and also to dessert as pudding ("what's for pudding?") –  b.roth Apr 24 '11 at 18:31
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Yeah, when at school, they were school dinners and we had dinner ladies. –  Lee Kowalkowski Apr 24 '11 at 20:59
    
It would be school dinners or packed lunch at our school... and we had dinner bids (as in "biddies") –  thesaundi Apr 24 '11 at 21:58
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It makes sense because "dinner" is what you call it when you make an effort, whereas a sandwich in a box is merely "lunch". But it's important to be aware of the inconsistencies. Some people who typically call their midday meal "dinner" would, on a day when they have a light midday meal, call it "lunch" and call their evening meal "dinner". But others would stick to their typical usage regardless of the size of the meal. IIRC at my school it was "school dinners", "packed lunches", but both were eaten during a scheduled time called "lunch break". Other schools would call it "dinner break". –  Steve Jessop Jun 1 at 17:29

Harvard's Dialect Survey had the question, "What is the distinction between dinner and supper?" Here's the geographic distribution of their results from 10,661 American respondents:

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That link needs to be in this site's 'tool box' (along with the other dictionaries and etymonline and such). –  Mitch Apr 27 '11 at 13:58
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In terms of those maps: xkcd.com/1138 is obligatory –  Amory Sep 11 '13 at 22:38
    
@Amory: Touché. –  Callithumpian Dec 7 '13 at 20:10
    
@Amory yes, the first thought that came to my mind, before i saw your comment :) –  semantax Jun 18 at 8:17
    
@Amory: Thank you. I was looking to make the same point. And to point out that I see little in the way of a trend or takeaway from the figure posted here: each of the maps seems to be essentially the same relative distribution. –  Drew Jul 13 at 21:11

In AmE/culture:

  • 'lunch' is the midday meal (11:30am-1:30pm), however large it is (if you're eating something around that time, and you don't eat something bigger around that time, that was your lunch). If you eat your midday meal at 3pm, that's kind of a late lunch, but it wouldn't be called anything else. That is, in AmE, 'lunch' = midday meal; a midday meal is never called dinner or supper (but see the exception below).

  • 'dinner' or 'supper' is the evening meal 5-7pm, or if later than that, more likely to be called a 'late dinner' or 'late supper'. 'supper' is not as common a term for the evening meal in AmE (my family used to call it that when I was a kid but I have rarely heard anybody else use it). So there is not much difference between dinner and supper (in AmE), except...

  • A midday or rather main meal on a Sunday, is sometimes called 'Sunday dinner' (never 'Sunday lunch') and is more likely to occur later in the afternoon, anywhere from noon to 4pm (well, OK, any time from noon to 8pm). There is nothing called 'Sunday supper', (dinner has a higher register feel to it than supper).

Just to note, in AmE/culture: there is no such thing as 'tea' as a meal (it just refers to the drink, not to any kind of cultural event as in BrE/culture). The evening meal, whether dinner or supper, is usually the biggest, most special meal of the day. 'Brunch' (usually Sunday brunch) is a big late morning/midday meal (skipping breakfast) that I think culturally came about because of having the first meal on a Sunday after church service; how or if that interferes with Sunday dinner I don't know - having both in one day would be excessive. Maybe Sunday dinner is if you have to spend the time after church preparing the meal, and brunch is if you go out afterwards.

Anyway, that's only mainstream AmE/culture. Off to Easter dinner...hm...that would be a Sunday dinner on Easter I guess.

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+1; this is dead on for where I grew up. "Brunch" usually occurred when there was a major time discrepancy between waking up in the morning. The early risers would eat breakfast than join the later risers for brunch. –  MrHen Apr 24 '11 at 17:44
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Interesting statement about Sunday main meals... there are very similar circumstances in most UK households in my experience, but "Sunday Lunch" is an acceptable and in my opinion preferred description. However a similarly prepared Christmas Day meal eaten at the same time (mid-afternoo) would never be "Christmas Lunch". This would be "Christmas Dinner". –  thesaundi Apr 24 '11 at 22:02

My paternal grandfather grew up on a farm in the American Midwest in the 1920s and was fond of telling us about the day's schedule and the meals.

  • Up before dawn to milk the cow, while food was prepared so that "breakfast" came around dawn and was typically a solid, hot meal.
  • Then into the fields to work until "lunch" (a small meal usually sandwiches or cold leftovers) was delivered in the late morning (say 10:30 or 11:00).
  • Back to work until mid afternoon (3:30 or 4:00 pm) when they'd return to the house for a small hot meal called "dinner".
  • Milk the cows, chop wood, carry water, fix things, and other work near the house until "supper", a large hot meal was served sometime after dark.

I talked to other's who lived on farms in that time, and they reported similar things. I never know anyone to hold that schedule off the farm, however.


Aside: you'll notice that the above represents the men's day, but that the women evidently had their hands just as full. In large measure with doing all that cooking. Sheesh!

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An excellent schedule to emulate, without all that work in between. –  Mitch Apr 25 '11 at 2:06
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The day schedule heavily depends on the culture and profession you look at. I grew up on a small farm in Austria. My parents - lifetime farmers - lived on a similar schedule. Depending on workload or time of year you can reach five times to eat (breakfast before you start work; a small cold snack between breakfast and noon; the main meal at noon; sometimes a snack, often with coffee in the mid of afternoon; and finally something to eat after your days labour). Also in German there are lots of names for all those meals. It strongly depends on your milieu. –  Dohn Joe Jan 3 '13 at 11:57
    
I adopted this eating schedule in college. Sometimes I also supplemented it with a midnight Taco Bell or Walmart run...I have a really high metabolism. –  called2voyage Jan 8 at 20:35

Where I live (SE-US), supper is more likely to connotate a quiet family meal, whereas dinner is just like lunch only later. Supper seems to be preferred in more rural areas.

However, 30-40 years ago it was different. People in my region called the meals "Breakfast", "dinner", and "supper", in that order. Later the Northerners brought their style of saying "Breakfast", "Lunch", "Dinner", in that order. This seems to me to explain why supper has survived in some rural areas, as those people would be in contact with the fewest number of people that speak differently.

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In India, supper is rarely (if ever) used.

  • Lunch - refers to the afternoon meal. (Somewhere between noon to 2 pm)
  • Tea - refers to tea and snacks around evening time (4pm - 6pm)
  • Dinner - refers to a meal at night (after evening, 7pm to 10 pm).

The size of the meal has little relation to the name. Though I'm sure that both Lunch and Dinner are fairly heavy. Tea is definitely only light snacks (a clear relic of the british rule).

Brunch is also increasingly used for a lazy combination of Breakfast and Lunch !

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On the farm in Arkansas in the 1930's we had dinner at noon, which was our big meal which would be chicken and dumplings or fryed chicken or pork or may be rabbit, squirrel and some time s beef if we did't sell it. For supper in the evening after we came in from the field about dark we would eat mostly beans and cornbread .

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What did you have for breakfast? –  Jim Sep 5 '13 at 6:13

I'm from Africa, Nigeria, of Ibo extraction. During our primary school days, we were taught that breakfast is morning meal, lunch afternoon, supper evening and dinner night.

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I'm a California native with parents who moved here from Maryland/Kansas and Indiana. Both sides of my family used dinner and supper interchangeably when referring to everyday meals. However, they used Sunday dinner when referring to a meal served on Sunday, generally between 2:00 and 3:00, as was also our custom for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter, with leftovers being eaten for our evening meal. As I read these posts, I couldn't help wonder why the immortal painting was named The Last Supper. I wonder what time of day that meal took place?

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Not to disagree with any of the previous answers, but I am surprised that no one has mentioned that "dinner" can have two meanings. Only that of a mealtime has been addressed. Dinner can also mean the meal itself. They seem identical but consider the following sentences: "We enjoyed an elaborate turkey dinner"; "we had turkey for dinner". This distinction seems to mirror a lot of the conventions that other posters have made. With this in mind, would it be incorrect to say that one enjoyed a turkey dinner for supper? I don't know—it sure sounds weird.

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Thanks for your contribution. Personally, I think the other answers equate the type/size of meal with what time of day it is eaten and I think the two are intertwined. No, I don't think you can properly say one enjoyed a turkey dinner for supper. You could say one enjoyed a turkey meal for supper, but, as the other answers say, the use of 'dinner' is indicating that it's the main meal of the day, and 'supper' is indicating a lighter meal. You can't properly mix them. –  TrevorD Jun 10 '13 at 21:50
    
@TrevorD: It's fine that you don't think they can be mixed; but you don't really explain anything. You just state that you agree with other answers. The whole point of Kyle's answer is to say that there is an orthogonal meaning which hadn't been brought up in other answers. You absolutely can say "I had a TV dinner for supper", for example, and it's perfectly proper. –  John Y Sep 23 '13 at 3:25
    
People do in fact mix them, whether that's "proper" or not. Even to the extent that you'll sometimes hear something like "we're having sandwiches for dinner, and dinner for tea", so that using "dinner" to describe the meal and the mealtime occurs in the same sentence. That would happen among people who mainly call the midday meal "dinner" and the evening meal "tea", but are also influenced by the "main meal is called dinner" usage. Both my parents moved south within England during childhoods, so my family's vocabulary is scattershot, but it's not just them I've heard this sort of thing from. –  Steve Jessop Jun 1 at 17:37

Well - I got into this because I have come across references on Prince Edward Island, Canada, to lunch as an evening meal. When I checked the original meaning of the word "luncheon" it seems the original Oxford defined it as a small meal between two larger meal. Specifically, in L.M. Montgomery's "Emily of New Moon", Emily's family spend the day travelling. When they arrive home in the evening they are so tired that they eat a light lunch before retiring to bed (apologies for not being able to provide a direct quote at this moment). Recently I also heard my neighbour on PEI refer to "lunch" as an light evening meal.

I have noted in Canada, the use of "turkey dinner", "lobster supper" and special meal patterns .... not familiar to me in Australia.

Growing up in Australia, it was breakfast in the early morning, morning tea mid morning, dinner at midday (hot main meal), afternoon tea mid afternoon, tea in the early evening (sandwiches, soup etc) and then supper before bed (cup of tea/cocoa, piece of cake). As time went on, work further away from home no longer permitted the midday "dinner". The main meal moved to early evening (6 to 8pm) but I often refer to this main cooked evening meal as "tea" which really annoys my English born husband. My family originally came from the north of England (well, Cheshire anyway), and I noted elsewhere someone had this usage of "tea". for the North of England.

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Born in Southwestern Ontario, Canada, raised in a traditional British household.

Breakfast - Morning meal breaking the overnight fast.

Morning Tea - tea and biscuit, sometimes a replacement for Afternoon Tea for those who dislike caffeine so close to bed time.

Lunch - Midday meal.

Afternoon Tea - 4 o'clock tea and biscuit.

Dinner - Largest most formal end of day meal. Taken at a Dinner table with full cutlery and dishware.

Supper - Small informal meal taken before bed usually in a kitchen type setting.

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Supper is any meal had from 4 p.m. till late. And dinner can be seen as a special kind of supper that sometimes comes occasionally, a lot more food is served than at supper.

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The use of 'supper' in southern England is not universal. Commonly, people appropriate this word for an evening meal to make themselves sound grand.

Growing up, we would have breakfast, lunch and tea and then, as the NZ chap wrote, cocoa/hot chocolate and biscuits as supper at around 9pm. This was in London.

Nowadays, my brother refers to his evening meal as 'dinner'; I still refer to it as 'tea'. I baulk when I read about 'supper clubs'. Seems a bit socially exclusive (to the upper middle classes) to me.

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Breakfast is a very early morning hot meal to start the day.

Brunch became known as a combination late breakfast/early lunch.

Lunch was solely the noonday meal.

Tea time is the same as coffee time served with cake or cookies in the late afternoon.

Supper is the main meal for a family at end of the day.

Dinner is a more formal term for the end of the day meal which usually includes the accompanying of friends ,a date, buisness partners, or persons other than just family and usually included cocktails prior to the meal.

Cigars and Brandy is a time mostly for men after a dinner and is surely a southern term not used much at all anymore.

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Before I moved to Canada from UK, I thought the mid-day meal was "lunch" and the evening meal "dinner." I didn't even know that working-class people in UK called "dinner" "supper." The latter I thought of as a pre-bedtime snack. That ghastly N. American hybrid, "brunch," was a completely unheard-of word. When we had "tea," it was usually just that (perhaps a cucumber sandwich or biscuit [never a "cookie"], too), but never "high tea," which was considered working-class by some people. Canadians use both "dinner" and "supper," I think. Getting rid of these stupid class distinctions would be a help etymologically as well as socially!

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I grew up in the midwest - small town, rural area in the 1950's. The meal in the morning was always breakfast. The meal in the evening was always supper. the mid-day meal was either lunch (a light meal, maybe a sandwich and soup) or dinner (large, like Sunday Dinner or Thanksgiving dinner).

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I'm from New Zealand. In my experience, people in New Zealand generally use the following:

  • breakfast = morning meal
  • lunch = meal around noon
  • tea (or dinner, less common) = evening meal
  • supper = late evening snack

also:

  • morning tea = drinks and snacks mid-morning
  • afternoon tea = drinks and snacks in the afternoon

Morning tea and afternoon tea are also called "smoko" - particularly in more physical jobs, such as farming or construction.

I don't think "supper" is very common, but when I stayed in a hall of residence at university in 1996, they served "supper" at around 9pm. It was usually something like some hot tea/cocoa and a muffin or piece of cake. "Supper" sounds a bit old fashioned or formal to me - if I have a snack in the evening now I wouldn't call it "supper" - just a "snack".

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This thread shows the dangers of the english language and reminds me of 'Through the Looking Glass' "'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.' "

Being a middle class middle-aged southern Englishman it is quite clear what I mean: Lunch is the midday meal, tea is taken around 4/5pm and supper is the evening meal. If the evening meal is more formal and substantial it becomes dinner. Lower down the social scale the midday meal is dinner, tea is the evening meal and supper is a snack at bed time.

25 years ago my sister's son was newly enrolled at a State primary school in a relatively poor area. After a few weeks she had to call in at the administrative office. She was greeted with "Mrs Sherry, so pleased to meet you, I have been dying to meet the only parent who writes 'lunch money' on the envelope containing dinner money."

In England you need to know about someone's education, age, andclass, region and politics to be reasonably sure of understanding exactly what he means :)

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When I was a child in rural Southside Virginia (in the early 1940s), "Dinner" was the main meal* of the day -- usually midday during the week or mid-afternoon on Sunday.

  • "Breakfast" might have been "larger" nutritional calorie-wise but "Dinner" was more elaborate and varied from time to time.

In my travels (around this country and much of the world) and in my old age, I have come to agree with the "Humpty Dumpty" reference above.

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I grew internationally since my parents travelled alot. Literally, I was raised in European, American, Asian countries as well as remote islands; therefore depending on your lifestyle and culture:

. Breakfast = From 2:00am - 10:00am . Coffee = From 4:00am - 10:00am (also a drink/beverage) . Brunch = From 10:00am - 1:00pm (used mainly on weekends & social gatherings). . Lunch = From 11:00am - 2:00pm Tea = From 2:00pm - 5:00pm (also a drink/beverage) . Dinner = From 5:00pm - 10:00pm Supper = From 7:00pm - 12:00am . Snack = (single food item between meals)

Meal terms also depending on what you had to eat & drink, as well as number of courses and who was coming or who you were speaking to social, economic & cultural setting).

Example: If mom had coffee, tea, cakes, cookies/biscuits"friends coming over at 10:00am be dressed"--she was having company over for Coffee. If it was at 3:00pm it was company for Tea.

If she had pancakes, eggs, bacon, coffee, tea, fruit punch at 10:00am, we were having Breakfast. If breakfast also had rice, potatoes, meats, sandwiches & friends --she was serving Brunch. If there were no breakfast items and only the soups, sandwiches or rice, potatoes, meats, we were having Lunch.

If the Lunch menu items was being served at 5:00pm--we were having Dinner. If it was lighter fare at 8:00pm with friends--she was having Supper.

If she handed you cookies/biscuits and milk when you came home from school--that was just a Snack.

You pretty much had to look at the date and time, look at the menu, see who was coming (or where you were going), and how you were dressed (formal, semi-formal, informal, casual).

Whew...hope this helps.

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From Maryland: I've always understood DINNER as a large (in size and attendence), with a "main dish" (usually meat) with many accompanying sides, and possibly a formal gathering, main evening meal; and SUPPER as a small, intimate among family "single pot" meal like soup, casserole, or pot pie. Sometimes supper would come after an early dinner (like on holidays) and would be made from dinner leftovers. Most days went breakfast-lunch-dinner, on weekends breakfast-dinner-supper, or breakfast-lunch-dinner-supper, or busy days out of the house might be breakfast-lunch- late supper.

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