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Is there a word or idiom describing a situation where a rebuttal to an argument is evidence to it (especially when it is ironic/meta)?

A very simple example:

John: “You can talk!”

Mary: “No I can't!”

John put forth an argument, and Mary rebutted it; in doing so, she inadvertently gave evidence to the contrary.

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Related: youtube.com/watch?v=jVygqjyS4CA [Python] –  Orbling Mar 4 '11 at 0:16
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My favorite as a child was "Are you asleep?" "Yes." –  Marthaª Mar 4 '11 at 0:54
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The word is self-refuting (or self-defeating).

In his Introduction to Logic, Harry Gensler defines a self-refuting statement as “[A] statement that makes negative claims so sweeping that it ends up denying itself.”

For instance, Truth does not exist (Is that a true statement?); Nothing is absolute (Is that absolutely true?); "I cannot speak a word of English”

There is a difference between self-contradiction and self-refutation.

Are you asleep? yes (self-refutation).

I am sleeping and not sleeping. (self contradiction)

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You may be thinking of paralepsis or aphophasis -- 'mentioning by not mentioning'.

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This situation is best described as a catch-22, or a logical paradox which can be escaped only by denying its premise. The eponymous novel by Joseph Heller, Catch-22, contains the following illustration:

  1. One must seek a declaration of insanity to be exempt from combat duty.

  2. Those who go into combat duty are insane.

Therefore, to seek exemption from combat duty is tacit proof of one's own sanity. Under these circumstances, no declaration of insanity can ever be granted, but there is no recourse but to seek one.

The situation you set up between John and Mary is not exactly the same, because in reality Mary has a valid rebuttal available to her. She could respond with silence, and thereby disprove John's statement. Assuming you had constrained the situation so that only verbal rebuttals were acceptable, however, then I believe the word/idiom you're looking for is catch-22.

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I'm aware of catch-22s and I certainly considered it, but the actual word I'm looking for doesn't describe a paradox. Another better example might be, “You're an angry person” responded to with, “No I’m not, I’m just mad all the time.” –  coreyward Mar 4 '11 at 1:31
    
Oh, okay. I had a feeling you might have considered it, but I figured I'd take a shot anyway. I'll keep pondering. Hope you get some bites! –  leetishmel Mar 4 '11 at 1:39
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