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Many people greet me "Many more happy returns of the day" on my birthday.
I thought it is grammatically wrong. Can we use "many" and "more" at a time in a sentence. I thought that it is correct to greet "Many happy returns of the day".
Are the given below sentences grammatically correct?
1)Many more happy returns of the day.
2)Many many happy returns of the day.

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It is redundant, but there is a famous birthday song which usually ends with "And Many More". – Elliott Frisch Jan 13 '14 at 4:00

It is not redundant because "many" and "more" do not mean the same thing. It is simply longer. "More" and "longer" or "better" for example is not grammatically correct because they both serve the same meaning, but many and more do not mean the same thing.

"More happy" is not grammatically incorrect, but the "many more" refers to "returns" not "happy"

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There is nothing ungrammatical about the first sentence. Adjectives can, and often do, accumulate in front of nouns. I admit that the construction does sound odd, but you have probably heard people say 'much more', which is equally odd, albeit more common.

It is, however, not redundant. To simply say 'many happy returns of the day' implies that the addressee has not yet received such a happy return, whereas 'many more happy returns of the day' implies that he has received at least one and still has more to come. The two words, though they play similar roles, need not be used exclusively of each other.

As for the second sentence, it is most definitely redundant--but is it ungrammatical? I know of no rule that proscribes repeating oneself. If we compare it with other common phrases that employ double adverbs, such as 'I like him very very much' and 'this soup is really really good', or with those that employ double adjectives, which Shakespeare often used, such as 'most best' and the like, then we see that it really is a common thing to do. The usage is redundant and can be considered lazy, but I see nothing ungrammatical about it.

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Think of "more" as meaning "additional" in this case.

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This, that you mentioned is a phrase. You cannot change phrases, grammer used in phrases is irrelevant to the fact that, while speaking they must be left untouched. The modified phrase that you suggested has no fault grammatically, but, it is wrong to change a phrase by adding words between them. So, you can use either of the two: 1) Many many happy returns of the day. 2) Many happy returns of the day. Hope it helps.

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"Many more" is perfectly proper. Too few realize that this is grammatically correct and is needed under certain circumstances. For instance, when I asked a waitress for some MORE ketchup packets, she replied asking me "how many?" to which I replied, "many more" and she looked at me like I had made a grammatical mistake but I had not. She could have very well asked, "how many more?" to which I could have responded with a numerical value or I could have said, "more" (which would have indicated that the NUMBER I had received was still not sufficient though how many additional ketchup packets I needed would not have been precise using this reply) or I could have replied, "many" which has the limitation of the previous reply. By responding with, "many more", it provided two points of information, one of which indicated that I need a GREATER number of packets and the other indicating that I needed MANY additional packets. The confusion with all this typically comes about when the language used leading up to the phrase or statement involves a NUMBER of objects rather than an AMOUNT or a DEGREE of something. So, because it is still proper to say I need MORE ketchup packets, it would not have been correct to indicate I needed a GREATER AMOUNT of ketchup packets, because the objects are singular entities and there is not a continuous measure. "More" is generic and can indicate a greater number or a greater amount of things or a greater degree, and "many" provides a generic indication as to the NUMBER of objects; a few, a couple, many. So while both generic uses by themselves (responding with "many" OR responding with "more") would have sufficed and not caused confusion, (it would have also been less precise), using "many more" is still correct because it is the combination of two generic terms to provide an additional bit of information, albeit generic information. And since it would be improper to use "more many", the reverse can be used by saying "many more". It is just a consequence of the generic and complex nature of the English language. A "much more" precise and understandable response would have probably been to say, "a greater number please" though this statement is still not indicating "how many" additional packets are needed. If I were not to have received ANY packets at all initially, then I could have asked for "some" packets or a "few" packets or a "great many" packets, and after receiving those if the number I received were "too few" then the problem now is that I need to communicate that I need a larger NUMBER of packets or that I need "MORE" packets, and when she asks "how many more" then the greater than information is already known by both parties, though if she just asks "how many" then I feel the obligation to not only include the fact that I need a GREATER number but also an obligation to continue with continuity by using the term "more" so I indicate I need "many" "more". Hope this helps.

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Gah! Wall of text! Please add some paragraph breaks, and use the formatting available (**bold** or *italic*), not all caps. – Marthaª Dec 18 '15 at 23:12

Many more is grammatically wrong. You should use them separately because using the them together is called tautology. For example, you cannot say, but and still together, or but and yet . The three mean the same thing and cannot go together because it is wrong and you will be guilty of tautology.

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