# Why do politicians all say “and” when they state a year number [duplicate]

"In two thousand AND eight blah blah blah until two thousand AND thirteen blah blah blah" Is there some grammar rule that if you're stating a year you should say "and" within a number or is there a rule that in politics you should say "and" within a number?

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## marked as duplicate by Mari-Lou A, medica, Edwin Ashworth, tchrist, MitchJan 5 '14 at 21:39

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Which politicians? – Tristan r Jan 3 '14 at 18:10
There are some American grammar school teachers who teach that you should never say "and" within a number. I believe that the more colloquial way to do it is to use "and". Politicians like to sound colloquial. – Peter Shor Jan 3 '14 at 18:10
Peter, it is also the way to do it in the UK. Not including the word and seems to be an American thing in particular. – Tristan r Jan 3 '14 at 18:39
Leaving out ‘and’, while perfectly common in many dialects (and idiolects), just sounds plain wrong to me. It grates, even though I know there's nothing universally wrong with it. I'm sure there are many who feel the same about leaving the ‘and’ in. – Janus Bahs Jacquet Jan 3 '14 at 18:39
@JoeC: No, that is not a rule. ‘And’ does not mean decimal point anywhere near as often as it is simply a part of a number exceeding 100 (or, if you count the archaic, ‘German’ way of putting the tens last, exceeding 20). If you want to denote decimal points, use ‘point’ for clarity; otherwise, you’re bound to be misunderstood. In fact, if you use ‘and’ like that without specifying what unit follows, I’d say you’re absolutely certain to be misunderstood. “Two thousand and thirteen” can just as well be thirteen millionths as hundredths. – Janus Bahs Jacquet Jan 4 '14 at 1:50

``````200.014 = two hundred and fourteen thousandths