Does anyone know the exact origin and date of use of the English tri-part phrasal verb, "come up with"? It was started to be used around the early 1900s in the States, but what is the origin of its current use; that is, "to think up," "produce," "invent," etc.?
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It was used much earlier than that (1789) And here (1594) where it meant to approach and draw even with used in the context of sailing up even with a ship or group of ships. |
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The OED says the current meaning is from the US with a first quote from F. Scott Fitzgerald in 1934. "To come up" meaning "to present in one's mind" is 1844. Meaning "to rise in rank or position" is 1530. There's an earlier nautical "to come to a direction" meaning "to come as close to the wind a possible" from 1633, sometimes used as in "to come up with the wind". Also used of people from 1678, meaning "to catch up from behind, become equal with". |
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Come up with today means approximately “find, think of”, often with a suggestion that what has been found is a far-fetched invention, or improvised solution.
However, the very old sense cited by Jim and Hugo—essentially what we would now express as catch up with—was in wide use in the first part of the 20th century; and the earliest use of come up with in the present-day sense I’ve found on Google Books suggests a similar deliberate pursuit of an idea:
It’s possible that the present-day sense derives from overlap with another use of the collocation. I found several instances in the period 1925-1935 of someone falling and then rising with a happy discovery:
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