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I recently encountered the phrase "have at you".

I know it's generally used as an exclamation, that is shouted when someone is about to attack someone else.

Wiktionary seems to agree with me:

Interjection

have at you

(dated) An exclamation indicating that one is about to strike the person addressed, typically with a sword or other hand-held weapon.

 [quotations ]

-Dark and sinister man, have at thee. Barrie JM (1904), Peter Pan.

And it got me thinking....

What does the phrase actually mean? Who or what is being "had"?

Acccording to RegDwighт, As well as being used by J.M. Barrie, "Have at you" is also used in Shakespeare:

  • "Have at you now!" — Hamlet

  • "Have at you with a proverb [...] Have at you with another;" — Comedy of Errors

  • "Have at you!" — Henry VIII

  • "Have at you, then, affection's men at arms." — Love's Labour's Lost

  • "Then have at you with my wit!" — Romeo and Juliet

  • "since you have begun, / Have at you for a bitter jest or two." — Taming of the Shrew

  • "Come, both you cogging Greeks; have at you both!" — Troilus and Cressida.

So where on earth did this phrase come from?

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@RegDwighт Are the two phrases related? I suspect they probably are, but I can't find anywhere actually saying so. (btw I'm adding your list of Shakespearian quotes to the question- they're great.) –  Urbycoz Jan 18 '13 at 10:48
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I have edited the Wiktionary entry to remove the fatuous "comparative" and "superlative" which were there, and trimmed them out of the quotation above. –  Colin Fine Jan 18 '13 at 17:31

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Webster's 3rd New Int'l Dictionary gives it as

have at
to go at or deal with, usu. hostilely <flops the morning bale of poetry upon my desk and I pull up my chair to have at them> —H. L. Mencken

This is undoubtedly derived from the following sense of have:

10a to maneuver into a position of disadvantage or cause to be at a disadvantage.

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Hmm can you tell us a little more about this, give an example of 10a? I think I know what you mean, as used in games? Probably related to the Dutch expression. –  Cerberus Jan 18 '13 at 15:10
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@Cerberus- How about: "Hey, look at this Rolex I got from a guy on the street for only $15." "Uhhmm, that's a fake. I think you've been had." Or, "You shouldn't have moved your rook, he has you now." –  Jim Jan 18 '13 at 16:58

It's a corruption of 'Habet!', which means 'Has it!' or 'Has had it!'

In ancient Roman gladiatorial combat, when the winning blow was struck - possibly a fatal one - the crowd would cry, 'Habet! Hoc habet!' which means 'Had it! He's had it!'

The winning gladiator could also cry 'Habet!' as a kind of 'Gotcha!' That's what's come down to us as 'Have at you!', which is supposed to be uttered when the coup de grace is delivered.

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An amusing theory, but unless you have some sort of substantiation or citation for it, I'd say it's not at all believable. ("Hoc habet" -> "this has", according to google translate.) –  Hellion Jan 2 at 21:33
    
Hi, gotgat. We appreciate your input. We also appreciate links to sources where applicable, especially in Answers. You can help us learn by providing links, even with answers in response to seemingly opinion-based questions. Thanks. :) –  medica Jan 2 at 21:34
    
Hoc habet means “He has this” or “This has”. This answer doesn't seem to make much sense—and with nothing to back it up, it appears entirely made up and random. –  Janus Bahs Jacquet Jan 3 at 0:17

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