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Consider this sentence:

You're missing posts only available to members.

I think it should actually be

You're missing the posts available only to members

or at least

You're missing the posts only available to members

The second sounds the best to me, but friends say the first one sounds best. This is going to go on a website for the people to see. I do not know how to justify it, but I think there should be a the before posts. Does taking it out make it okay? If so, can someone please explain?

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    @BarrieEngland's answer tells you about "the" very well and so I will not address that point. On the other hand, while you have not asked about the position of "only" in your sentences, your second version has "available only to" while the other two have "only available to". I think "available only to" sounds much better than "only available to" (cf. first three words in Barrie's answer). Jul 3, 2012 at 11:41
  • @DilipSarwate, yes, I felt it would be better if only was placed after available, thanks much for confirming that!
    – iamserious
    Jul 3, 2012 at 12:47
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    Literally, posts only X refers to posts that have property X and no other properties. It may be more accurate to refer to posts that are available only to members, or available to members only. Jul 3, 2012 at 14:49
  • available to members only - that is just perfect, thanks!
    – iamserious
    Jul 3, 2012 at 15:14

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Although the modifier "only available to members" makes "posts" more specific and thus would seem to require the definite Article, it still hasn't made the Noun completely specific.

You can say "posts" is halfway from being general to being specific.

This is often confusing. Consider this other "middle" example. This is correct:

Ex. I like people who have initiative. (not all people, but still general)

In your example, not adding an article is suitable because the Noun "posts" is specific but still general.

The alternative you're thinking of should be something like:

Ex. I want to read THE posts that WERE only available to members.

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  • great.. this was, I think, a perfectly understandable answer. Thanks.
    – iamserious
    Jul 3, 2012 at 12:44
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The problem is not with the article, but with the compression engendered by reducing the relative clause which/that are available to members by Whiz-Deletion. Put the boldfaced material back in and it doesn't matter whether you use an article or not. The following are both grammatical and semantically identical

  • You're missing posts that are only available to members.
  • You're missing the posts that are only available to members.

The only difference is whether you want to go on record, in the second example, as assuming that there are posts that are available only to members, and as assuming that your listener already knows this. Or whether, in the first, you merely want to imply their existence and allow your listener to form their own conclusions.

Because that's what the does -- it marks presupposed existence in what is called a "definite description" in philosophy and linguistics. How definite you want to get is up to you, and depends on your audience. This isn't a correctness matter, but a presentation matter.

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Posts available only to members makes a generic reference, that is, a reference to a whole class rather than to specific instances of the class. As explained in the ‘Longman Student Grammar of Spoken and Written English’, this can be achieved by use of the definite article, the indefinite article or the ‘zero’ article. The indefinite article clearly isn’t appropriate here, given that posts is plural. The definite article is used generically only with singular countable nouns. The ‘zero’ article is used generically with plural and uncountable nouns and is what you require here, as in your first example.

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  • Hi, so, if I write, You're missing the private posts available only to members - would I have to put the there? would `private posts`` make it more specific? I'm just trying to understand this, not trying to keep the the. Thanks.
    – iamserious
    Jul 3, 2012 at 12:49
  • @iamserious: There is, I admit, the distinction that John makes, but I'd still have thought that in most circumstances the version without the definite article would be adequate. Jul 3, 2012 at 15:34
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Omitting the from posts makes it a general reference. What you are saying is that posts in general are available only to members. If you want to refer to a specific set of posts, you need to add the. But in this scenario the meaning is clear whether you add one or not.

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There's nothing wrong with adding in a "the" (or even an "all"; see below), but those words aren't necessary, either. The meaning can be discerned from the context readily enough, and it doesn't sound like a word is "missing", either.

You're missing all posts available only to members

Only members can see some posts. Evidently, you're not a member, because you're missing those posts.

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"The" is the definite article - a specific thing or things.

Whilst the inclusion of 'THE' is more correct and precise - if the thing is known - I think one can also use the second form without creating a schism in the english-speaking world - or apparently not...); most people will 'hear' the 'THE', or will understand the implication, if the Thing is known or specific.

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